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To: Steve Dietrich who wrote (472556)4/16/2009 7:56:24 PM
From: one_less  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1575775
 
"There is no gray region. "

I've always held that there is no grey area in doctrine whether it is scriptural, governmental, or contractual. Ideas of principle may be absolute, however every circumstance is unique and every person brings a unique perspective to circumstance.

Torture may be defined in the absolute. It not only defines the level of suffering a victim may experience but it has a context which goes beyond the normal suffering of incarceration and interrogation by an enemy. That circumstance in and of itself may involve unbearable suffering for some people.

I have withheld my personal opinion of waterboarding because the consequences of judging it one way or the other involves personal responsibility for your stand. I am comfortable, however, in noting that the DOJs judgment establishes a legal basis. Something you have also proclaimed.



To: Steve Dietrich who wrote (472556)4/17/2009 1:16:25 AM
From: HPilot  Respond to of 1575775
 
The UN Convention on Torture is very clear and it is a treaty which has been signed and ratified by the United States.

Bull shit. It simply says no undue pain or suffering, that is clear as mud.