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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (301576)	4/17/2009 8:21:27 PM
From: mph	2 Recommendations Respond to of 793745

Cogito's own echo chamber copied the MSM sex joke approach and chortled their way through a couple of days. And you can't tell me that Obama really needed to give that speech he gave yesterday. He even bored himself with that one!

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (301576)	4/17/2009 8:40:56 PM
From: greenspirit	3 Recommendations Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793745

I remember years ago, during the height of the anti-nuclear power Greenpeace years in the mid eighties. Literally 6 people showed up outside the gate in Bangor, Wa. to protest and the national news services covered the event in glowing detail. All the news shots were super close up to fake a much larger bunch of protestors. The left bias is ridiculous these days....

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (301576)	4/17/2009 8:44:42 PM
From: FJB	1 Recommendation Respond to of 793745

Israel stands ready to bomb Iran's nuclear sites Sheera Frenkel in Jerusalem April 18, 2009 timesonline.co.uk The Israeli military is preparing itself to launch a massive aerial assault on Iran's nuclear facilities within days of being given the go-ahead by its new government. Among the steps taken to ready Israeli forces for what would be a risky raid requiring pinpoint aerial strikes are the acquisition of three Airborne Warning and Control (AWAC) aircraft and regional missions to simulate the attack. Two nationwide civil defence drills will help to prepare the public for the retaliation that Israel could face. “Israel wants to know that if its forces were given the green light they could strike at Iran in a matter of days, even hours. They are making preparations on every level for this eventuality. The message to Iran is that the threat is not just words,” one senior defence official told The Times. Officials believe that Israel could be required to hit more than a dozen targets, including moving convoys. The sites include Natanz, where thousands of centrifuges produce enriched uranium; Esfahan, where 250 tonnes of gas is stored in tunnels; and Arak, where a heavy water reactor produces plutonium. The distance from Israel to at least one of the sites is more than 870 miles, a distance that the Israeli force practised covering in a training exercise last year that involved F15 and F16 jets, helicopters and refuelling tankers. The possible Israeli strike on Iran has drawn comparisons to its attack on the Osirak nuclear facility near Baghdad in 1981. That strike, which destroyed the facility in under 100 seconds, was completed without Israeli losses and checked Iraqi ambitions for a nuclear weapons programme. “We would not make the threat [against Iran] without the force to back it. There has been a recent move, a number of on-the-ground preparations, that indicate Israel's willingness to act,” said another official from Israel's intelligence community. He added that it was unlikely that Israel would carry out the attack without receiving at least tacit approval from America, which has struck a more reconciliatory tone in dealing with Iran under its new administration. An Israeli attack on Iran would entail flying over Jordanian and Iraqi airspace, where US forces have a strong presence. Ephraim Kam, the deputy director of the Institute for National Security Studies, said it was unlikely that the Americans would approve an attack. “The American defence establishment is unsure that the operation will be successful. And the results of the operation would only delay Iran's programme by two to four years,” he said. A visit by President Obama to Israel in June is expected to coincide with the national elections in Iran — timing that would allow the US Administration to re-evaluate diplomatic resolutions with Iran before hearing the Israeli position. “Many of the leaks or statements made by Israeli leaders and military commanders are meant for deterrence. The message is that if [the international community] is unable to solve the problem they need to take into account that we will solve it our way,” Mr Kam said. Among recent preparations by the airforce was the Israeli attack of a weapons convoy in Sudan bound for militants in the Gaza Strip. “Sudan was practice for the Israeli forces on a long-range attack,” Ronen Bergman, the author of The Secret War with Iran, said. “They wanted to see how they handled the transfer of information, hitting a moving target ... In that sense it was a rehearsal.” Israel has made public its intention to hold the largest-ever nationwide drill next month. Colonel Hilik Sofer told Haaretz, a daily Israeli newspaper, that the drill would “train for a reality in which during war missiles can fall on any part of the country without warning ... We want the citizens to understand that war can happen tomorrow morning”. Israel will conduct an exercise with US forces to test the ability of Arrow, its US-funded missile defence system. The exercise would test whether the system could intercept missiles launched at Israel. “Israel has made it clear that it will not tolerate the threat of a nuclear Iran. According to Israeli Intelligence they will have the bomb within two years ... Once they have a bomb it will be too late, and Israel will have no choice to strike — with or without America,” an official from the Israeli Defence Ministry said.

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (301576)	4/17/2009 9:41:55 PM
From: FJB	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793745

It was closer to 500,000 people, Allen, in hundreds of cities. I'm thinking if this were held on a Saturday we could get a couple million. I know five people who could not attend, because of work. Righties and middles don't have as much free time as lefties. Maybe tax day was not the right day either. People aren't angry about paying taxes. They are angry about a government out of control.

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (301576)	4/18/2009 3:34:36 AM
From: Neeka	3 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793745

This is not a game and it is not funny. It is shocking to witness how many Americans revel in the belittlement of their fellow countrymen. Humans continue to denigrate and belittled and segregate and pigeon hole those with which they disagree. We work at ensuring that our detractors appear to be insignificant fools....not to be taken seriously........and we laugh and are incapable of understanding that what we should be doing is listening and learning. It seems to me we have forever and ever accepted this as normal. Are we not driven by our leaders to understand other peoples and accept that in their world they have contrary beliefs that we should all want to understand? Hasn't that been the calling of progressive Americans? Yes! Yet this is not possible with our own neighbors. Why should we believe this is possible with people from other cultures when after all of these hundreds of years respect, cooperation and understanding is impossible here? Some narrow minds foster these primitive notions about who our neighbors are.........witches and devils........and make them out to be the enemy. This behavior..........attacks on respectable individuals. Individuals who wish to have a word about their government and what they perceive as best for themselves, their families and their country.....is insulting. Anderson Cooper and his distasteful comments about the people who attended the Tea Parties Wednesday, or the destructive comments about Veterans included in the latest HS document shows a distinct lack of understanding and civility on some people's part. A huge shortcoming which lays open the lie of modern/progressive America. Until we can all acknowledge those simple truths and go forward we will continue to be deluged with the "politics of personal destruction." This is primitive thinking and this mindset must not be taken seriously because it is childish and unproductive. These tactics only detract from the core issues and ignore the heart of the problem. Until THAT can be over come there will be no improvement in the human condition anywhere. I have this gut feeling that history is being ignored by a large segment of the population. I have this gut feeling that most people have no interest in understanding, and that if more people don't pay more attention, history will repeat itself. And you are absolutely right.........this mocking by these elitist sycophants is dishonesty in its most horrible form. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "In Germany, they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist; And then they came for the trade unionists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist; And then they came for the Jews, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew; And then . . . they came for me . . . And by that time there was no one left to speak up."