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To: koan who wrote (96649)4/18/2009 1:42:52 AM
From: benwood12 Recommendations  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 116555
 
Geez, koan, that's a bit thick. All it needed to be complete was a companion mp3 file with God Bless America <g>

"We are the government" is a great thing to say to ourselves. When > 95% of Americans wrote their Congresspeople about the bailout and were given the finger, that was OUR finger.

When citizens who owned rifles, handguns, and other legal, licensed weapons for the purpose of protecting themselves happened to live on safe, high ground when Katrina came in, and who were minding their own business and posing no threat, they confiscated their own weapons through their own government arm, under threat of violence and death.

I could go on, but why? Unlike some, I believe gov't is necessary. I want the stoplights to work, the police and fire service to be available. However, expanding from the Fed Gov of the 60s to what we have today has resulted in stagnation of wages, pensions are going bust, health care lags the rest of the western world, our prisons are crammed like no place outside of what North Korea?

It wasn't government that produced e.g. the B-17. Boeing, down the street from where I live, would argue about who worked in the factories, who managed them, etc. Gov't paid for them, in the same way that the government buys cars from Ford and GM today, yet does *not* build them.

I applaud your desire to see gov't succeed. I just want a smaller version, and I don't appreciate the fascism we have today. That isn't the people, and saying it's the people won't change reality. Corporations control virtually every aspect of gov't today.

I could prove it with a study, too. Just a fat contribution to secure my own earmark, and I'll show you one way it's done <g>



To: koan who wrote (96649)4/19/2009 8:48:21 PM
From: John Metcalf4 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 116555
 
OK, I accept that you are far too busy to spell check or grammar check, even though both happen automatically on SI. But you really need to think-check!

In a post that starts with "USSR is not a good example as it was a dictatorship. We are a democracy. Everyone keeps forgetting,we are the government." you contradict your own thesis in every phrase:

"Ike built the interstate highway system." Ike didn't build shit. The people built it; because we are a democracy; see above.

"Government converted auto factories to tank and aircraft facories (sic)". Nope, the people built them (literally).

"Israel disassembled entire munition factories after WWII in the US, smuggled them out of the US and into Israel and reasssembled them...." Sure, that must have been allowed by the same US people who were disarming voluntarily because they live in an imaginary democracy.

I like to challenge my own beliefs before I challenge those of others. I like to re-examine history before I speak about its meaning. I recommend these practices to others!



To: koan who wrote (96649)4/20/2009 1:36:41 PM
From: Broken_Clock5 Recommendations  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 116555
 
Gov't gone wild

Bathroom emergency on flight prompts felony charge
AP - Thursday, April 9
ATLANTA - A man who says he desperately needed to use an airplane bathroom after eating something bad in Honduras faces a federal charge after being accused of twisting a flight attendant's arm to get to the lavatory, the FBI said Wednesday.

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Joao Correa, 43, told The Atlanta Journal-Constitution he had a bathroom emergency 30 minutes into a March 28 Delta Air Lines flight from Honduras to Atlanta, but found the single coach aisle on the Boeing 737 blocked by a beverage cart. He said he asked if he could use the lavatory in business class, but was told no.

Transportation Security Administration policy requires passengers on international flights to use the restroom in their seating class.

When the cart wasn't moved after a few minutes, Correa said, he ran for the business class lavatory. He said the flight attendant put up her arm to block him, and he grabbed it to keep his balance.

A Delta flight attendant said Correa grabbed her right arm, pulled it down and twisted it, according to authorities.

The man was arrested after the plane landed in Atlanta after a three-hour flight and Correa was held for two days in jail, authorities said. He was charged with interference with a flight crew, said Gregory Jones, head of the FBI in Atlanta, and released on bond after appearing before a U.S. magistrate.

"I'm devastated," the Concord, Ohio, man told the paper. "I've never had any event with the police in my life."

Correa could not be reached Wednesday by The Associated Press. A message was left on his home telephone.

Delta spokeswoman Susan Elliott released a statement saying flight crews "do everything within the limits of the law to ensure the safety and security of our passengers."

(CORRECTS man charged with interference with a flight crew, not assault.)