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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Steve Lokness who wrote (63416)	4/21/2009 11:30:28 AM
From: longnshort	1 Recommendation Respond to of 224744

URBANE ORDERS? What's all this about President Obama wanting to decide where Americans will live? Such a scenario sounds far-fetched, but Ronald D. Utt, a senior research fellow for economic policy studies at the Heritage Foundation, draws attention to Mr. Obama's early opposition to "suburban sprawl," adding his intention to "alter the way Americans live" took a step closer to reality by his creation of an interdepartmental initiative on housing and transportation. "While some may hope this effort is nothing more than the president's attempt to use the White House as a bully pulpit to encourage Americans to mimic the urbane lifestyle he experienced in an upscale Chicago neighborhood, the record of past such efforts by the federal government is more troubling," Mr. Utt writes in a background paper. He recalls 1998, when President Clinton's Environmental Protection Agency threatened to withhold transportation funds from Georgia because the Atlanta region did not meet federal air-quality standards. The EPA said it would restore funding once Georgia discouraged single-family detached housing and encouraged public transit use and investment. Carol Browner headed the EPA when the threat was imposed on Atlanta. Today, she is assistant to the president for energy and climate chang

To: Steve Lokness who wrote (63416)	4/21/2009 11:38:07 AM
From: TideGlider	Respond to of 224744

I don't understand what Ron Paul Rue Paul, John McCain or John Glenn has to do with the argument. Nice you like trains. EOD here if you don't mind.

To: Steve Lokness who wrote (63416)	4/21/2009 12:42:42 PM
From: lorne	2 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 224744

steve...Your statements...."Well yes I say, it is different now - there is a real need to spend to stimulate the economy. As a pragmatist I understand that we are going to spend money to stimulate the economy.".... If the USA is in economic crisis from overspending just how can spending vast more amounts fix the problem? The USA government is hocking the value of America and its citizens to foreign powers the plan being to repay the loan at some future date... there could be some temporary stimulus but the debt must still be repaid...near as I can see stimulating the local economies does not create trade with other countries which IMO is needed to bring about an end to this political created crisis. So if overspending is good why is there a crisis today...why did the USA economy not grow...just don't make sense to me. You also stated this...you may claim it is taken out of context but the meaning is very clear. IMO. ...How can any reasonable person argue that we need to spend as much as the rest of the world put together?"...