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To: LLCF who wrote (2541)	4/21/2009 4:15:04 PM
From: Brumar89	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 69300

The definition of evolution is all important. There are several and part of the problem in talking about the issue is its tough to be sure which is being used. "Change over time" is pretty uncontroversial imo. Stated simply like that and nothing else and you have little controversy imo. Humans have after all been using selective breeding for thousands of years.

To: LLCF who wrote (2541)	4/21/2009 6:53:08 PM
From: Greg or e	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 69300

You are simply equivocating on the word "evolution". No one disputes that change happens. It's the kind of change that is in question in the evolutionary debate "we see change everywhere it is literally PERVASIVE in everything we sense and experience" Really: do we see non life suddenly evolving into life? Spontaneous generation? If not: Why not? Do we see in the fossil record, long, gradual changes from one species to another? No instead we get served up finch beaks, peppered moths and Haeckel’s fraudulent drawings. Then there's Piltdown man, Nebraska man, and even flipperpithecus. Would you buy a used fossil from these guys? Again; If Darwinian evolution is true; then why is it not reflected in the fossil record? There is a dramatic lack of intermediate forms in the fossil record where there should be myriads of examples. The huge gaps between the few examples that are cited and existing species, render the connections draw tenuous at best. Even more embarassing is when fossils are discovered to be alive and well What we do see, are relatively trivial changes within already established species. We don't see Darwinian evolution happening.