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To: koan who wrote (96833)	4/22/2009 12:02:28 PM
From: Claude Cormier	11 Recommendations Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 116555

KOAN: If the people are too stupid to vote in the right people then what they get for government is their fault and no one elses. We finally agree. However, I am not (and you should not) be very happy that the majority of the people constantly vote for more government interventions, which implies, less individual freedom and less individual responsibilities. I think they should have vote for Ron Paul. Here is what we need instead of our current democracy: What is libertarianism? quebecoislibre.org Five essential libertarian attitudes: quebecoislibre.org

To: koan who wrote (96833)	4/22/2009 12:46:49 PM
From: Little Joe	4 Recommendations Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 116555

"As I keep pointing out, we live in a great a democracy. In a democracy the people have the power. If the people are too stupid to vote in the right people then what they get for government is their fault and no one elses." Sounds like a self indictment to me. I would say people voted for at least the following: 1 Out of Mid East 2. No earmarks 3. No bailouts 4. more energy production in America 5 enforcement of immigration laws. 6 Better schools 1. So what happens. Obviously we are not out of Middle East, and I doubt we will be any time soon if ever. 2. More earmarks than ever. 3. Bailoouts forever. 4. less exploration and drilling for energy. 5 nonexistent enforcement of immigration laws. 6 Same old crap on schools with a President who claims he wants change, shutting down one of the best programs in the Country and depriving poor kids of their only chance for a good education, because he has to pay off the teacher's union.d So tell us who these right people we are supposed to vote for to get what we want. P.S. I neglected to mention the number of times we elected Presidents who were going to reduce taxes, spending and the deficit and we all know that happened too. The only rational appoach is to throw them all out. lj

To: koan who wrote (96833)	4/26/2009 3:20:55 AM
From: Skeeter Bug	18 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 116555

>>First, I am estatic with my vote for Obama. I feel Obama may end up being the greatest president we ever had. He has the qualities of both Jefferson and Lincoln. << i don't think you know what jefferson stood for... for example... “If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their money, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them (around the banks), will deprive the people of their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.” - Thomas Jefferson do you really think jefferson would try and transfer $1 trillion dollars from the common man to those he feared more than standing armies? what is really scary is that people who think like you will become incredibly radical once you've found out you were used by psychopaths to further their personal agenda. obama would make jefferson puke based on his bankers first stance alone.