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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Steve Lokness who wrote (63571)	4/23/2009 3:52:53 PM
From: TideGlider	2 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 224724

Steve I think better words for your use of indoctrination might be Guidance and encouragement.

To: Steve Lokness who wrote (63571)	4/23/2009 4:00:34 PM
From: Arthur Radley	Respond to of 224724

Steve, I can just hear the words now......all you 'childreeen' just need to be like me, my 'childreeen', my husband, and my brother-in-law Jeb's wife and they 'childreen'....break the law! Get a police record......break the law like me....and kill somebody. georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov As for the Bozo that posted that Chuck Robb tried to get a law passed in Virginia to keep him out of the draft.......DUH! Chuck Robb, a member of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA Marine Corp, decorated combat award winner with TWO tours of duty in Viet Nam.....vs. an AWOL. Sure Robb wanted a draft deferment...just like Cheney! georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov

To: Steve Lokness who wrote (63571)	4/23/2009 4:24:13 PM
From: lorne	2 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 224724

steve...."Indoctrination such as encouraging them to become good citizens. Staying away from guns, drugs, gangs, & crime. Indoctrination that there is a better way than the cycle of welfare and single parents. Indoctrination that hard work and clean living offer a far better high than using drugs. Indoctrination that if we all contribute to society in a positive way that we benefit as a country. ..........You know, the kind of indoctrination that many kids get in church, but others who never see the inside of a church just don't get.".... Sounds like you seek a return to solid and moral family values... IMO no government can create that...It requires a return to family first attitude.... not a bunch of naked homosexuals dancing in the streets...did this happen in pelosi's district.... anyhow this is what society has become today...government did not intervene to stop destruction of society how in hell can they teach children family values...gees a few years back American children watched their democratic president lie about having sex with an intern in the presidential oval office...this is what a lot of America's kids are growing up with... I mean this crap is from the top...the very top of society. So how will they help...keep in mind that this administration said something like never let a good crisis go to waste...so why not get a few million future voters lined up.

To: Steve Lokness who wrote (63571)	4/23/2009 4:44:46 PM
From: lorne	Respond to of 224724

steve..IMO the ongoing destruction of the free democratic societies is from the top and at time sounds like it is encouraged by fools like this...make that dangerous fool with power over others. Tuesday February 3, 2009 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- United Nations Population Fund Leader Says Family Breakdown is a Triumph for Human Rights By Matthew Cullinan Hoffman lifesitenews.com MEXICO CITY, February 3, 2009 (LifeSiteNews.com) - A leader in the United Nations Population Fund (UNFPA) has declared that the breakdown of traditional families, far from being a “crisis,” is actually a triumph for human rights. Speaking at a colloquium held last month at Colegio Mexico in Mexico City, UNFPA representative Arie Hoekman denounced the idea that high rates of divorce and out-of-wedlock births represent a social crisis, claiming that they represent instead the triumph of “human rights” against “patriarchy.” "In the eyes of conservative forces, these changes mean that the family is in crisis," he said. "In crisis? More than a crisis, we are in the presence of a weakening of the patriarchal structure, as a result of the disappearance of the economic base that sustains it and because of the rise of new values centered in the recognition of fundamental human rights." "Day after day, Mexico experiences a process of this diversity and there are those who understand it as a crisis, because they only recognize one type of family," one of the speakers on the panel also told the audience. The comments followed close on the heels of the World Meeting of Families, which was held in Mexico City in January, and which strongly reaffirmed the importance of the traditional family and its indispensible role in transmitting values to the next generation. It was opened by Mexican President Felipe Calderon, who observed that high rates of divorce and out-of-wedlock births were contributing to the rise of violence and crime in Mexico. Leonardo Casco, a member of the Pontifical Council for the Family and a citizen of Honduras, told LifeSiteNews that he wasn't surprised that the UNFPA was denying the crisis in the family. "They definitely have to deny that there is a crisis in the family, because they have created the crisis," he said. Calling the UNFPA "bureaucrats at the service of death," Casco observed that "after 45 years of birth control, the pill, disrespect for marriage for the family, for children, etc, this is the result. Because of that we have violence, war, lack of respect of women, children." Through their promotion and distribution of contraceptives the UNFPA has become "a birth control agency at the service of the most powerful countries" said Casco. "They have destroyed the family, values, this is undeniable, it's what everyone says ... but they always have to deny it." Regarding Hoekman’s comments about “human rights,” Casco responded that UNFPA bureaucrats “have invented a series of new 'human rights',” that did not exist when the concept was defined in 1948, “with which they wish to justify all of their actions.” The UNFPA recently celebrated the restoration of US support after seven years, during which they were denied funding by the Bush administration. UNFPA has cooperated with and even helped to subsidize China's One Child Policy, which persecutes and performs forced abortions on women who have more than one child. In addition to its support for forced abortions, the UNFPA has helped to administer forced sterilizations in South America and is involved in the distribution and promotion of contraceptives and sterilization worldwide, with a focus on poorer countries.

To: Steve Lokness who wrote (63571)	4/23/2009 4:53:56 PM
From: MJ	2 Recommendations Respond to of 224724

Steve Indocrination is not needed to espouse these good values. These are values that can be learned by example-----beginning with the highest office of the land----the Presidency. We have had three Presidents Clinton, Bush, Obama who admit to having used hard drugs. We have at least one of the three who used women for his own warped pleasures and desicated the highest office of America----Bill Clinton. Clinton showed disrespect for women and Monica as well as disrespect for America and for the Oval Office which was a symbol of America until Bill Clinton defiled it. Let's add to that the Kennedy's-------Joe Kennedy, not my time, according to my father was a booze runner------and then we have President Kennedy who was a womanizer and throw in Ted Kennedy who left Mary Jo to drown, to die. Then----let's move over to Hollywood and television. Where are the wholesome examples in these arenas for children? Few exist. mj

To: Steve Lokness who wrote (63571)	4/26/2009 11:45:34 AM
From: Alan Smithee	2 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 224724

Indoctrination such as encouraging them to become good citizens. Staying away from guns, drugs, gangs, & crime. Indoctrination that there is a better way than the cycle of welfare and single parents. Indoctrination that hard work and clean living offer a far better high than using drugs. Indoctrination that if we all contribute to society in a positive way that we benefit as a country. Odd. I never thought of those things as indoctrination. I always thought they came under the category of good parenting.