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To: Bearcatbob who wrote (7471)	4/24/2009 8:43:08 AM
From: Sam	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 86356

2. Duped - hockey stick? Antartic ice data? Russian data "assumptions"? Tipping point? LOL - the data has been shown to be false time after time - the scare data. Bob, The scientists who study these things have had 30 years of intense research,theorizing and debate about the above issues and much much more. I don't know what you are talking when you say "Russian data assumptions," but the others have been addressed over and over, and are not "false." The fact that climate change isn't linear and is so complex is the only reason this issue is totally clear to everyone, but the great majority of people who study and read extensively about it are convinced it is happening, although there isn't agreement about timing, climate sensitivity and when a real tipping point will be reached. I realize that I will never convince you and some of the others on this thread, but so be it. We will have to agree to disagree and go our own ways. Fortunately, at the end of the day, what we individually believe is the case doesn't really matter.

To: Bearcatbob who wrote (7471)	4/24/2009 2:19:09 PM
From: RetiredNow	Respond to of 86356

The simplest answer is usually the right one. What is a more credible theory, yours, where most scientists and academicians around the world are conspiring together to raise energy prices in order to wreck the global economy? Or is it more credible that oil and coal companies are afraid that their huge businesses will be severely impacted by a switch to renewable energy, and so, they are spending millions in lobbying and spreading disinformation to sow doubt about the science as a way to avoid legislation that will cost their businesses lots of money. I think the latter theory is more likely.