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To: koan who wrote (7585)4/25/2009 2:29:50 PM
From: Brumar89  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 86356
 
Just 2 names off the top of my head - Richard Lindzen, Freeman Dyson.

Your insinuation these guys aren't as smart as the alarmists, are biased conservatives, or bought off by industry isn't true.

I think its bad that alarmists have to depend so much on appeals to concensus and ad hominem character attacks on skeptics.



To: koan who wrote (7585)4/27/2009 7:51:58 AM
From: Hawkmoon1 Recommendation  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 86356
 
Koan,

You conveniently decided to forego responding to the fact that 90% of the Japanese Geoscience Union (no slouches when it comes to the scientific process) disagreed with your son:

When this question was raised at a Japan Geoscience Union symposium last year, he said, "the result showed 90 per cent of the participants do not believe the IPCC report".

Geoscience, and in particular Geophysics, is different from Atmospheric science in that it is more "wholistic". It incorporates studies involving EVERYTHING about the planet, not just the atmosphere.

But more telling is that these scientists were from Japan, where the Kyoto Treaty was signed. You'd think they'd have that much more incentive to "toe the line" with regard to GW.

The reality is that the GW's and the IPCC report is guided by a tyranny of the minority. The majority, from what I read, recognize that more research needs to be undertaken before conclusions are drawn.

Hawk



To: koan who wrote (7585)4/27/2009 7:54:48 AM
From: RetiredNow  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 86356
 
What's telling is that 97% of climatalogists, the scientists most qualified to form conclusions on climate science, believe that global warming is real and humans are inducing it.

So who do we believe, the climatologists or the oil lobby? The answer is clear for anyone not wearing tar covered glasses.


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