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To: i-node who wrote (475695)4/27/2009 11:40:29 PM
From: Steve Dietrich  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 1576392
 
DOJ lawyers are not the arbiters.

Someday someone will explain that to Less, maybe when he's older.

It is highly unlikely any crimes were committed. If they start criminalizing the rendering of a legal opinion that turned out to be wrong, there is going to be a very long list of defendants to be prosecuted.

I tend to agree. Though the rulings themselves were almost certainly not criminal, the waterboarding clearly was.

I'm not a big fan of prosecuting previous administrations, i even wouldn't be shocked to see Obama issue pardons if this thing turns into a snowball.

But i don't think there's much question that waterboarding is torture, that the Bush administration acted in bad faith and did in fact torture. I think that's all pretty clear.

SD



To: i-node who wrote (475695)4/27/2009 11:57:58 PM
From: bentway  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1576392
 
"There is roughly a zero percent chance the legal opinions obtained can be shown to have been criminally devised"

The top flight attorneys have stated that the Bushie attorneys deliberately ignored all the cases in American law where waterboarding WAS considered torture, and didn't cite them as precedents. For this reason, most top flight attorneys think the Bushie lawyers should be disbarred. They claim the analysis was incompetent to the point of malpractice.

boards.msn.com

As this continues, I think the attorneys themselves will admit that they were ordered ( by Fredo Gonzales ) to deliver some legal cover for Bush administration torturers, and the weak bastards did so instead of resigning.