To: Valuepro who wrote (155802 ) 4/28/2009 9:52:05 PM From: E. Charters 2 Recommendations Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 312672 They will turned you into a whipped puppy, where you are scared to say shucks. These forums are sniveling, really. No self respecting red blooded male should allow himself to be ruled by the status quo of what people will allow you to get away with here. What it is, is a tyranny of a mobocracy. And I don't believe governments have any right to collect taxes. It should be every man for hisself. If they want roads, give em a chain saw and tell em to cut em themselves. Hospitals, sell em a band aid or a crutch. Hospitals save damned few people. Schools - they can read books for free. All schools are just expensive baby sitting. If they need an army, just wait until the huns invade and throw people some guns, they will get busy. It worked in the Revolutionary war, should work well in the future. If you need to pay an army, just let em loot some commie country for its oil and gold. They damned well deserve it. The only good commie is one hanging from a tree. You don't need a civil service. They aren't civil and they don't do much service. Politicians don't need a salary. They know enough about taking bribes to get by on that. When you add up what the government does for the poor, it amounts to nothing they could not do better for themselves if the government just got its foot off the neck of employers so they could afford to hire people. When people try to start a business in this country they find so much red tape it costs more to deal with the government than it does to buy all the equipment. The employees are guaranteed a union the minute you start up, with more rights than kings of small foreign countries. And you have to pay taxes and fees to seven government departments. 20 hours out of every 24 you are working for Washington or Ottawa. We were better off as cavemen. When Oog said, "hey! Let's form a committee to oversee land clearance with thissee fire thingie, and these new stone axes", it all went to hell. EC<:-}