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To: koan who wrote (7784)4/28/2009 5:03:19 PM
From: Bearcatbob  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 86356
 
GE and Obama?



To: koan who wrote (7784)4/28/2009 8:26:20 PM
From: Brumar89  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 86356
 
Corporations didn't rule Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy, Spain, Portugal. Or any fascist country. The leader of the ruling party ruled everything he wished.



To: koan who wrote (7784)4/28/2009 10:29:23 PM
From: RetiredNow  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 86356
 
koan,
another name for the last 8 years is "crony capitalism". It's very similar to fascism and has very serious consequences, as we just found out.

What I find unbelievable is that the very people who created this economic calamity are now upset when Obama applies the medicine to fix it. Shows you how diminished the GOP has become. It really is a shadow of its former self.

Having said that, there are still some good GOP members left. I still like Huckabee, for one. He's a big believer in renewable energy.



To: koan who wrote (7784)4/29/2009 12:02:36 AM
From: Hawkmoon3 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 86356
 
And when corporation runs a government, that is fascism.

WTF!!! So now you're a Political Scientist?

You haven't got a CLUE what Fascism is. You're like so many other "Lefties" who use the word to great delight against the Conservatives, but then proceed to implement the very dictates that Mussolini epitomized:

The foundation of Fascism is the conception of the State, its character, its duty, and its aim. Fascism conceives of the State as an absolute, in comparison with which all individuals or groups are relative, only to be conceived of in their relation to the State. The conception of the Liberal State is not that of a directing force, guiding the play and development, both material and spiritual, of a collective body, but merely a force limited to the function of recording results: on the other hand, the Fascist State is itself conscious and has itself a will and a personality -- thus it may be called the "ethic" State....

...The Fascist State organizes the nation, but leaves a sufficient margin of liberty to the individual; the latter is deprived of all useless and possibly harmful freedom, but retains what is essential; the deciding power in this question cannot be the individual, but the State alone....


fordham.edu

Fascism perceives corporations as tools of state power. They can be privately operated so long as their primary operations support the existence and agenda of the state. But they are still subordinated to the will of the state (ideally speaking).

en.wikipedia.org

Fascism is a radical and authoritarian nationalist political ideology.[1][2][3][4] Fascism is also a corporatist economic ideology

Suggest you read this instead of flipping around falsehoods about Mussolini's vision of Fascism:

National syndicalists imagined that the liberal democratic political system would be destroyed in a massive general strike, at which point the nation’s economy would be transformed into a corporatist model based on class cooperation, contrasted with Marxist class struggle. (see the Nazi model of Volksgemeinschaft). But national syndicalists also publicly declared their opposition to bourgeoisie-class rule and instead supported a strong "proletarian nation" which would rid itself of class-based society and convert it to a national society. National syndicalists typically opposed communism, capitalism, liberalism, and any other internationalist movement which was deemed to be threatening the strength and/or unity of the nation.

en.wikipedia.org

Hawk