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To: i-node who wrote (199891)	5/3/2009 6:14:31 PM
From: Skeeter Bug	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 306849

>>I don't disagree. But that has very little to do with the quality of our health care system.<< just like failing students has little to do with the education system? just like business losses has little to do with the company management? -lol- in my view, health care's sole purpose is to generate a healthy populace. if everyone is sick, who cares how good the health care system is? if everyone is healthy, who cares how bad it is? >>Okay, I got it. This is your philosophic position.<< i believe it to be factual. if you doubt it, ask as many physicians as you know why obesity is correlated strongly with chronic disease states. let us all know what they say. also ask them to explain the diet that reduced the incidence of diabetes 83% and ask them why it worked. i bet they don't know, but i'm willing to be proved wrong. i can't wait to hear what these doctors tell you. >>Don't be silly. You're being ridiculous. There is no way a physician can get through med school today OR practice for 10 or 15 years and not see this correlation.<< i know they know it is correlated and i never said they didn't. i asked you to ask them WHY it is correlated. we can both agree it isn't magic, so what is the underlying cause of this correlation between obesity and chronic disease? again, i await the specific answers from as many doctors as you can ask. stop building up straw a straw man, knocking it down and calling me absurd for your straw man effort. it is unbecoming. >>Well, you are just totally wrong here. While there are some cost/benefit considerations, a recent study out of Israel found that patients who took statins for at least 5 years reduced their risk of dying by 45% (from any cause) versus those who don't. This is an outcome-based statistically significant result.<< so we should expect to see heart disease deaths decrease as statin use increases, right? this article limits it only to heart related deaths... procor.org statins are also known to increase cancer risk. nnot dying is a pathetic goal. living well is a grand goal.