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To: JohnG who wrote (17223)	5/5/2009 11:01:35 PM
From: Proud Deplorable	8 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 50752

"The trade off is lose a little freedom to gain a little security." You get ZERO increase in security and huge losses of freedoms, not to mention loss of business from us Canadians who are fed up with this border BS.

To: JohnG who wrote (17223)	5/5/2009 11:12:00 PM
From: Jillad	6 Recommendations Respond to of 50752

The "need" for the Patriot Act and DHS? The "need" to have the government monitor my computer? The "need" to have the government call me a right wing extremest? The "need" to have the government .......etc? I could go on but I am sure that Slider will take care of this one. Go along little sheep, comments like that are not welcomed here.

To: JohnG who wrote (17223)	5/6/2009 1:28:37 PM
From: SliderOnTheBlack	15 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 50752

re: ["The trade off is lose a little freedom to gain a little security."] Nothing personal, and I'll take you at your word that those are your honest feelings, but... That will prove to be the worst trade that you will have ever made in your entire life. I guarantee you, that within a few very short years, those 13 words will haunt you for the rest of your, and your children's lives. You have no idea of what's unfolding, but you will soon. A couple of historic quotes come to mind: ***************************************************************************** "In a state of tranquility, wealth, and luxury, our descendants would forget the arts of war and the noble activity and zeal which made their ancestors invincible. Every art of corruption would be employed to loosen the bond of union which renders our resistance formidable. When the spirit of liberty, which now animates our hearts and gives success to our arms, is extinct, our numbers will accelerate our ruin and render us easier victims to tyranny. If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animating contest of freedom—go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." -- Samuel Adams "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -- Benjamin Franklin SOTB