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To: Road Walker who wrote (479367)	5/8/2009 9:35:54 PM
From: i-node	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1578081

We never whined about the media or some outside source as an excuse for our political failure. Why would you? The media is liberal. They don't bash liberals. They don't attack liberals. They go after conservatives. Duh. and so far Obama and his people have done a pretty good job of getting us out. Except you cannot articulate one constructive thing he has done.

To: Road Walker who wrote (479367)	5/9/2009 2:32:52 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1578081

Obama shouldn't feel so bad.....it seems anyone who is within 20 years of the 21st century is subject to attack by the GOP base's leaders....Rush and Tony Perkins. GOP base rips Cantor's National Council for a New America By ANDY BARR \| 5/7/09 6:04 PM EDT Social conservatives are blasting the National Council for a New America, House Minority Whip Eric Cantor’s (R-Va.) nascent effort to rebrand the Republican Party, as a misguided and weak-kneed initiative that is out of touch with the GOP rank and file. The council, unveiled last week by Cantor and Sen. John McCain, is designed to be a “forward-looking, grass-roots caucus” that formulates policy prescriptions and communicates with voters in a way that could expand the Republican ranks. In announcing the formation of the group, McCain said he hoped the group would attract moderates and “like-minded Democrats” to a series of public forums around the country. But social conservatives couldn’t help but notice that the policy areas the group will focus on included no mention of same-sex marriage, immigration or abortion. And the roster of GOP luminaries who signed on to the effort was missing a few of the pols who are most popular with values voters. “The moderates have been saying the same thing all these years, and now they’re just seeing a renewed opportunity to push their ideas,” said Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa), a leading opponent of gay marriage. “It’s a losing proposition to try to divide social and economic conservatives,” Ken Blackwell, a one-time Ohio secretary of state and former candidate for Republican National Committee chairman, told POLITICO. “They will constantly find themselves backpedaling and apologizing and repositioning because the composition of that group does not reflect a basic reality, which is that social and economic conservatives complement one another.” See also Reporters have a Jones for NSC profiles Vitter fires back at W.H. on FEMA 5 ways W.H. made tests less stressful Blackwell noted that the slight did not go unnoticed among social conservatives, as they “have the experience of being used and then abused and then forgotten.” Mike Huckabee, the former presidential candidate who was not invited to join the so-called GOP panel of experts involved with the effort — a list that included Govs. Bobby Jindal of Louisiana, Sarah Palin of Alaska and Haley Barbour of Mississippi and former Govs. Mitt Romney of Massachusetts and Jeb Bush of Florida — said that it was “sad day” in Republican politics when “we think it is necessary to form a ‘listening group’ to find out what Americans think we should be fighting for.” “Our problem is not lack of ‘experts,’ but too many of them and not enough attention to the hard working people in our communities that aren’t connected to the Beltway, but to the heartland,” he said in a statement. The former Republican presidential candidate also knocked Bush, who suggested at the group’s first town hall event on Saturday that it was time to get past “nostalgia” for the Reagan era. “Frankly, the party was in pretty good shape then and can be again, but Ronald Reagan didn't summarily dismiss values voters like this new group of ‘experts’ has by not listing any of the issues that still matter to many of those common Americans this group wants to listen to,” Huckabee said. Rob Collins, Cantor’s deputy chief of staff, said the expectation that every top national Republican would be included in the council would be “unrealistic.” “Were we perfect in the rollout? No,” Collins said. “We want to get all these national leaders on board and we’re going to try to do that.” Collins said the seeming omission of certain issues from the domestic policy categories the council is examining isn’t a sign that the group is excluding social conservatives or overlooking the issues that matter most to them. 1 \| 2 \| Next Page >> politico.com

To: Road Walker who wrote (479367)	5/10/2009 7:19:28 PM
From: Tenchusatsu	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1578081

RW, > We never whined about the media or some outside source as an excuse for our political failure. What a load of crap. Liberals have always whined about the (right-wing) media for years now. More excuses include, but are not limited to, the following: - Voter disenfranchisement in Florida. - Bush was selected, not elected. - Clever guy, that Rove. - Too much money in politics, which favors the party of the "rich." - Bible-thumping red states ( fuckthesouth.com ) - Nazi-like tactics of the Bush administration. Very rarely did I ever see liberals blame themselves for their own failures during those years. > Did "many, many liberals" want Bush to fail? I'll take a guess; if you mean the ultra liberals, maybe 10% of the population, then yes. Maybe only after 9/11. Before that, many liberals wanted Bush to fail because they felt he would have dismantled Social Security, restarted the Cold War via the missile shield, force Christianity upon everyone, etc., etc. Tenchusatsu