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To: combjelly who wrote (480688)	5/14/2009 12:34:46 PM
From: Tenchusatsu	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1573947

CJ, > If releasing the photos poses a danger to our soldiers, doesn't that mean the depicted acts were probably a bad idea? Probably. Which is why I fully support Obama's about-face on their release. Just stop the practice. No need to make a public spectacle over it. Or is there? I still suspect Rahm Emanuel had a hand in trying to milk this issue for PR. Tenchusatsu

To: combjelly who wrote (480688)	5/14/2009 12:52:42 PM
From: i-node	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1573947

If releasing the photos poses a danger to our soldiers, doesn't that mean the depicted acts were probably a bad idea? Of course they were. Nobody has disputed it was a bad idea. It isn't as though it was something approved by the Pentagon. Talk about conflating. You and the rest of the nutjob Left have totally conflated the incidents at Abu Ghraib with the legitimate interrogations carried out under American law on three terrorists who killed 3000 Americans. But you and the rest of the left wing nutjobs miss the bigger point. You never, ever do anything that needlessly puts our soldiers lives at risk. They're already taking massive risks on your behalf, you don't arbitrarily, for political purposes (which is what Obama's intent was), do something to increase risk to our soldiers. While these photos are not something Americans are proud of, the more important point is in the Middle East they are totally blown out of proportion. The same people who think nothing of hanging an American Marine from a bridge, dragging them through the streets, beheading Americans, etc., find fodder in photos where prisoners are forced to walk around nude. We should not forget the history of Abu Ghraib. By this, I'm not referring to the photos. I'm talking about the period before 2001, when 15-20K prisoners -- Shiites, Iranians, Kurds and others, where held without charges -- being fed plastic, subjected to chem/bio weapons experiments, without counsel or even the minimal communication with ANYONE. The so-called "prisoner abuse" the photos pertained to was literally LAUGHABLE compared with what went on under the Saddam regime. Conditions at Abu Ghraib when the so-called "torture" photos were made were orders of magnitude better than from a couple years before. That isn't to justify what happened there. But the military did discipline the people responsible for it, something that would never have happened in ANY Middle Eastern country. History will reflect that Abu Ghraib was the most trumped up event in this war, and probably in several before it. And it was done mostly by the Western Left, NOT those in the Middle East who would have thought it a vast improvement over the prior situation. Only after the Western Media got hold of the photos did it become an issue -- and the violence shot up dramatically two weeks later. In short, the Western Media and Western Liberals are "useful idiots" in the extreme as far as Abu Ghraib is concerned.