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To: patron_anejo_por_favor who wrote (202392)5/15/2009 12:59:39 PM
From: Skeeter BugRead Replies (2) | Respond to of 306849
 
>>Don't generalize. It depends on the doctor.<<

i feel very confident generalizing. of course there are exceptions, but they are few. very few.

>>All the diet studies in the world don't help if the patient doesn't comply.....<<

the doctors don't give a realistic diet the vast majority of the time. when diets drive hunger, of course people don't comply.

>>and those studies are available courtesy of the internet to any patient who cares to look.<<

i told a diabetic coworker about this diet, he took it to his doctor who then said it wouldn't work - even though the data and joslin diabetes center doctors say it works amazingly well.

>>Don't put bad habits on the docs, the vast majority of the time they counsel healthy eating,<<

i disagree. for example, most doctors recommend eating a healthy portion of grains and complex carbs daily. the diet that reduced diabetes 83% had very levels of grains.

there is an important reason why this is true. grains elevate insulin, insulin elevates delta5-desaturase, d5d elevates cellular inflammation, cellular inflammation increases diabetes.

smoking cessation, regular exercise. The failure is with patients wanting the easy way out (again, most of the time).<<

you can't follow the right diet if you don't know about it. modern medicine, as a whole, is anti the right diet. the establishment didn't create it, they don't know what it is, they don't know how it works and they don't trust what they don't know. no billion dollar drug company tells them about it.

yes, there are exceptions. the doctors working with manuel uribe know about the right diet, that's why he cut his calories well over 90% and reduced his hunger. he is healthier than most people 1/6 his current size and it is why he will eventually set the world record for weight loss. he's down 500 lbs in just over 5 years - and has plenty of energy, is happy, is no longer depressed and no longer hungry.

but he had to make national news before the creator of this anti-inflammatory diet could begin to help him. no other doctor could help him - he tried and failed all the traditional diets.

in general, though, most doctors recommend a sub optimal diet and don't know what an optimal diet is. that is why joslin's dieatry recommendations are so different than what most doctor's recommend.

i had a friend who suffered from debilitating back pain for 5 years. she spent $20k+ out of pocket. within 36 hours her pain went away when he got on the right diet. an anti-inflammatory diet.

if medicine were right, they would have tried that approach first - it would have saved her an ulcer.

oh, her ulcer went away on the anti-inflammatory diet, too.

of course, this was because she no longer needed to take anti-inflammatory medications.



To: patron_anejo_por_favor who wrote (202392)5/15/2009 11:39:30 PM
From: Pogeu MahoneRespond to of 306849
 
skeets is a lazy exerciser who took decades off and then jumps into exercise con gusto hurting himself and takes more months off from exercising..
ankle biter who cannot follow his own advice.



To: patron_anejo_por_favor who wrote (202392)5/16/2009 2:31:49 AM
From: NOWRespond to of 306849
 
social determinants are responsible for the majority of risk that can be alleviated