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To: Steve Dietrich who wrote (481883)	5/18/2009 4:59:20 PM
From: Brumar89	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1575614

If he were bluffing, Obama would have blown him out of the water by now. Or do you think Obama isn't smart enough to realize that? Even if you do think that, remember Rahm and Axelrod are right there beside him.

To: Steve Dietrich who wrote (481883)	5/18/2009 5:02:33 PM
From: Tenchusatsu	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1575614

SD, > Because Cheney is bluffing? So is Feingold. The Democrats have the vast majority of chips on the table now, so all they need to do is call Cheney's "all-in" bet. Instead, they are folding. But don't expect the Democrats to admit defeat. Tenchu's seventh and final rule of partisan politics: Declare victory and move on. Tenchusatsu

To: Steve Dietrich who wrote (481883)	5/18/2009 5:12:01 PM
From: i-node	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1575614

"Nothing I have seen -- including the two documents to which former Vice President Cheney has repeatedly referred -- indicates that the torture techniques . . . were necessary," said Mr. Feingold, a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee who has access to classified documents. "The former vice president is misleading the American people when he says otherwise." We know. This is what Obama said, too. But there is a disagreement, and having one more liberal come out and disagree is meaningless. Let's see the documents. Obama is supposed to be all about transparency. Let's have some transparency. We know that lying is second nature to almost all liberals. Whether you're Clinton lying about seducing a young girl, or Obama lying about his position on abortion or ending the wars, you're all pretty much liars (I hedge that because I believe there are a few great liberals, like Chris Hitchens and Patrick Moynihan, who are not liars but are simply wrong about some things). But largely, liberals are liars. So let's see the documents and allow the public to make the call.