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To: longnshort who wrote (481912)	5/18/2009 6:20:25 PM
From: i-node	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1576121

That is a pretty iron-clad condemnation of the "waterboarding is torture" argument. If it is, in fact, an intent to harm the person, and you've gone to such extreme measures to prevent that as, e.g., having a physician present to monitor the detainee's physical condition, the argument that there was an intent to do harm is without any merit at all. Thanks for posting this. It is an excellent post.

To: longnshort who wrote (481912)	5/18/2009 8:06:45 PM
From: Steve Dietrich	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1576121

What a party of dissemblers you all are. Here's the operative definition: For the purposes of this Convention, torture means any act by which severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental, is intentionally inflicted on a person for such purposes as obtaining from him or a third person information or a confession, punishing him for an act he or a third person has committed or is suspected of having committed, or intimidating or coercing him or a third person, or for any reason based on discrimination of any kind, when such pain or suffering is inflicted by or at the instigation of or with the consent or acquiescence of a public official or other person acting in an official capacity. It does not include pain or suffering arising only from, inherent in or incidental to lawful sanctions. When a soldier willingly allows himself to be waterboarded so as to learn how to resist torture, that is not torture. Can't you guys make your case without lying? SD