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Politics : The Environmentalist Thread -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: koan who wrote (24588)	5/19/2009 2:15:40 PM
From: HPilot	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 36917

The primary thesis of each is that the government is run by the people and not an authoritarian individual or group. Show me a country run by the people and I will show you anarchy. I think it is important who the people who run the government are and who limits their power. The problem with our government is that it is run by snobs who are idiots and their power is limited by lobbyist's. Or is their power given to them by lobbist's?

To: koan who wrote (24588)	5/20/2009 12:19:10 PM
From: R2O	Respond to of 36917

changed into more of a democracy like how we elect the president In the USA (where I vote), the president is elected by Electors (representatives) that the electorate vote for. I do not get to vote for the president. I know many of these truths may appear to be inconvenient but they where (and are) in place for good reason. Sadly, many others have been eliminated. So, since there are zillions of definitions of democracy, perhaps you could list a few along with why you think they are democracies. Places like Zimbabwe come to mind: a long time 'democracy' that apparently protects nobody and is constantly in mob rule and ruled by an authoritarian group. And of course there is that best selling early 20th century author that led a world famous democracy, duly elected as he was. Perhaps you have heard of him? Adolph Hitler. Fully democratic National Socialist Country. That was a big step for mankind and people are silly to make light of it or parse words when discussing the idea of people ruling themselves. The idea of people ruling themselves is much easier than the practice and most times 'people' didn't include all humans. It is only appropriate to 'parse words' if you intend to discover meaning in words. If all you want to do is produce an emotional response then you are surely correct, people are silly. It is the practice (not the 'thesis' or 'idea' of people ruling themselves) that is important. R2O