To: Real Man who wrote (20486 ) 5/22/2009 7:52:45 AM From: RockyBalboa Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 71462 It is important to filter signals from noise, once more. Here, singnal come from the option spreads (though options can stay priced imperfectly for some time. It is not necessary that the stock price gives on although I am sure it will at a certain point. More important will be the softening of the curve pricing which comes once the market has more clarity about the terminal value. One sign could be that the calls begin to build time value again. To be sure, I checked the conditions of stock futures (in options things are pretty clear) and there is nothing special about corporate events but the usual adjustment rules. But as the tide goes on and depending on the balance sheet the position (short calls and buy futures or sell put spreads, could become a really big one). a bit over 2, a large block of GM stock lurks. I wonder whether this got eaten or is left untouched. All told it is a great arb but in some cases the balance sheets decide. We already know that the obama administration allows for lots of leeway and unclear timelines, as seen in chrysler and the first lapse of the GM ultimatum. This is what makes the situation dangerous even if the economic endresult is practically cast in stone. On another note, currency markets are simply ignoring the Moody announcement not to change the outlook for U.S. debt, which is perhaps result of a gag order. So far, the USX did not reverse on this, >>>>>>>>>>>> USD rating remains stable, new trend for greenback Thu, May 21 2009, 23:18 GMTfxstreet.com FXstreet.com (Buenos Aires) - The U.S. credit ranking remains at AAA Moody’s Investor Service spokesman said Today. Fears of a probable downgrade triggered a selloff of U.S. assets starting early in the American session, with Wall Street and S&P closing to the downside, and dollar falling to record lows against major rivals. Despite that, dollar is unable to recoup ground, and at current levels, dollar is set to begin a longer term falling trend. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Edit: I have received word that some institutional players (a.k.a hedge funds) have gained limited access to GM stock for borrowing; borrowing rates are at 25% to 30% (to the tune of 10 to 15MM shares). It depends on the price when they will sell but in any case they need volume! So, a bit of drumming up may be in order ggg.