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To: Pacing The Cage who wrote (17587)	5/27/2009 1:24:23 PM
From: Proud Deplorable	8 Recommendations Respond to of 50324

They volunteered for the army....their problem Again.....this is my position: youtube.com youtube.com Those who cannot learn from this song are just plain stupid and this is the final word and the end of this subject for me. I'll NEVER change my opinion on this basic TRUTH, it's the soldiers fault alone. Nobody can make you do something you don't want to. I was jailed briefly for my anti-war protests and this makes me a real American hero. It takes a REAL man to say NO to the morons who start these things. It's FAR better to run away from war. BTW Vietnam is not our enemy today but the soldiers who died are still dead.

To: Pacing The Cage who wrote (17587)	5/28/2009 3:24:02 AM
From: Proud Deplorable	5 Recommendations Respond to of 50324

Today is a National Day of Protest=====Obama's Torture State worldcantwait.org What: Highly Visual, Dramatic Protest Demonstrations/Photo Ops When: May 26-27-28 Where: 15 cities: New York City; Los Angeles; Chicago; San Francisco; Boston; Seattle; Atlanta; Houston; Cleveland; Philadelphia; Honolulu; Fresno; Greensboro, NC; Portland, OR; Benton Harbor, MI (New York City, NY) In the face of the Obama administration's refusal to release a reported 2,000 additional photographs of detainee abuse, in spite of being ordered by a federal court to do so, torture opponents will hold visible protests to demand that the government make the photos public. In 15 cities, they will also call for prosecution of those who ordered, legally justified and carried out torture in US detention and secret prisons during the Bush years. ------ There are some 2,000 photos not released by the Defense Department under Bush, which the ACLU is still seeking. What difference does it make if people see more photos of the detainee torture and abuse? Well, you could ask what interest the Obama administration has in suppressing them. It's true that much of this information is already known, given the leaks by foreign press, and people in the US military who originally, and courageously, in some cases, took the photos and made them public. But the fact that the government can suppress them with impunity, on the excuse that releasing them will endanger American military more than the fact that torture and indefinite detention of civilians is widespread and systemic from Iraq, Afghanistan, and in Guantanamo and the Bush secret prisons, is an outrage.