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To: Mannie who wrote (17590)	5/27/2009 1:34:34 PM
From: tntpal	2 Recommendations Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 50328

Forced Population Control is an issue that should be open for public debate - not something discussed by the Elite Rich & Powerful Behind Closed Doors - the very people who control much of the worlds wealth and power. If you want to put your trust in so-called, good-hearted, billionaire philanthropists to decide the future course of humanity while hidden away behind closed doors - that is your right. Most Super-Rich people get that way by being ruthless - if you've done your homework on the Rockefeller's & Rothschild's then you'd know that already. I wouldn't trust the super-rich to decide my future in secret. Here's an earlier quote from one of the Philanthropists attending this meeting: “A total population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal.” Ted TURNER - CNN founder and UN supporter - quoted in the McAlvany Intelligence Advisor, June '96 Also, you may recall this David Rockefeller speech addressing the problem of population: youtube.com And how about looking under the surface and reading up on the issue of Rockefeller involvement in Eugenics & breeding: tetrahedron.org P.S. Here is a link to a similar article as regards my post - which is not available because it came from an e-mail: THE NEW WORLD DISORDER Secret billionaire club seeks population control worldnetdaily.com Finally - if all we're talking about is handing out condoms - then why the secrecy. Before you know it we will have a one child policy - like in China - and forced abortions for those who don't obey - along with loss of other civil liberty's in a controlled & managed society. Individual Freedom in an Open Forum is the real issue of concern. Philanthropy is not the real issue. <t&tpal>

To: Mannie who wrote (17590)	5/27/2009 1:50:55 PM
From: Broken_Clock	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 50328

Once Considered Unthinkable, U.S. Sales Tax Gets Fresh Look Levy Viewed as Way to Reduce Deficits, Fund Health Reform By Lori Montgomery Washington Post Staff Writer Wednesday, May 27, 2009 With budget deficits soaring and President Obama pushing a trillion-dollar-plus expansion of health coverage, some Washington policymakers are taking a fresh look at a money-making idea long considered politically taboo: a national sales tax. Common around the world, including in Europe, such a tax -- called a value-added tax, or VAT -- has not been seriously considered in the United States. But advocates say few other options can generate the kind of money the nation will need to avert fiscal calamity. At a White House conference earlier this year on the government's budget problems, a roomful of tax experts pleaded with Treasury Secretary Timothy F. Geithner to consider a VAT. A recent flurry of books and papers on the subject is attracting genuine, if furtive, interest in Congress. And last month, after wrestling with the White House over the massive deficits projected under Obama's policies, the chairman of the Senate Budget Committee declared that a VAT should be part of the debate. "There is a growing awareness of the need for fundamental tax reform," Sen. Kent Conrad (D-N.D.) said in an interview. "I think a VAT and a high-end income tax have got to be on the table." A VAT is a tax on the transfer of goods and services that ultimately is borne by the consumer. Highly visible, it would increase the cost of just about everything, from a carton of eggs to a visit with a lawyer. It is also hugely regressive, falling heavily on the poor. But VAT advocates say those negatives could be offset by using the proceeds to pay for health care for every American -- a tangible benefit that would be highly valuable to low-income families. washingtonpost.com