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To: RetiredNow who wrote (8641)5/28/2009 2:19:28 PM
From: Hawkmoon  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 86356
 
You are just trying to make a silly argument to prove that we should torture people.

You're just applying a silly word to every effort made to extract information from a brutal enemy for the purpose of saving people's lives. I'm sorry.. IMO, the threshold between torture and harsh interrogation lies in whether permanent physical injuries result.

And don't try and tell me that we're psychologically damaging them. Remember, these are people who are so sociopathic that they have no qualms about killing innocent people, or packing children with explosives and sending them out to blow themselves up. They are ALREADY BRAINWASHED and it takes some very stringent "deprogramming" to bring them back to the reality of what they are perpetrating.

You can continue to favor "Perp's rights" over past and future victim's rights, but I'm about preventing more innocent people from dying, and if I have to be a bit unfriendly in accomplishing it, then so be it (fortunately it's never become an issue, but my conscience is clear). Like I mentioned.. If I witnessed my family being kidnapped and I managed to get my hands on one of the perpetrators, I wouldn't wait for the police to Mirandize and/or give him his free phone call. I'd be doing stuff that probably would be classified as torture in order to find out where my family was being taken.

Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

Hawk



To: RetiredNow who wrote (8641)5/28/2009 6:55:31 PM
From: Brumar89  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 86356
 
The policy of killing all our enemies on the battlefield, ie taking no prisoners, you advocate means killing people in cold blood who throw down their weapons and hold up their hands. It means the execution in cold blood of wounded enemies.

What you're advocating is a violation of accepted norms of warfare, including our own guidelines, probably violates the Geneva conventions, and is far more cruel than waterboarding 3 terrorists.


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