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To: koan who wrote (54985)5/28/2009 5:18:46 PM
From: TimF  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 149317
 
Jefferson, Franklin, Adams and Lincoln were all liberals as were those who advocatd for the womens right to vote, stop segregation and stop gay bashing.

Really. Can you provide me to a link to Jefferson's, Franklin's, Adam's and Lincoln's arguments about how woman should vote, attacking segregation (not slavery, segregation), or on issues pertaining to homosexuality?

Not to mention that your delineation of conservative as meaning being against voting rights for women, and for segregation, and gay bashing is ridiculous. If that's how you define liberal and conservative, than fine we are almost all liberal, that's settled, liberals win. But we still have all the same political fights as we had before, because the real conservatives, would not suddenly start supporting the modern political agenda. Defining the terms used to describe your opponents in odious ways doesn't settle any issue. Most likely your non-standard definitions won't stick, so nothing changes, but if they do, than all you get is a new term for people with the same disagreements that previously existed.