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To: cosmicforce who wrote (112161)5/29/2009 12:56:29 PM
From: Katelew  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 541664
 
Actually, what you describe has happened in the past against the Mormon Church. It survived all kinds of legal attacks against its legitimacy. Also, early members were attacked (some killed) and physically driven from state to state before settling in various regions of the pre-state, old west. It wasn't but a few years ago that MO took some old state laws off the books that allowed for the seizing of private property owned by Mormon families.

Aside from this, I didn't find your commens persuasive because it seems to me there are separate issues at play but you and others keep trying to morph them. One is the right to know the names of political donors. The other is retaliation by one group against the other. My original post was only addressing this issue, the retaliation. It was not an effort to rehash the pros and cons of gay marriage, or whether we should be proud of our votes (of course we should). And like you, I support transparency of political donations and hate the 529s or whatever they're called.

So far only one side has physically retaliated by posting names and maps and harrasing and vandalizing. You and others on the thread are OK with this because you consider it 'just desserts' against those who defeated a cause you believe in. This is fine. But my question to you and others is simply would you be so sanguine if the same thing had been done to those who donated to the No on 8 campaign? Specifically, maps to houses followed by intimidation, harrassment and vandalism.

It seems to me that voter intimidation is at the heart of things here. The Civil Rights movement spawned a lot of legislation on voter intimidation, but I don't know if retaliation would be included in it.

It seems to me there are some core principles at risk here that liberals, of all people, would want to protect. As I said before, I found the silence of the MSM troubling.