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To: Paul Kern who wrote (112238)	5/29/2009 8:10:19 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 542007

Who really cares? If you are willing to eat a cow that has been slaughtered in one of our US slaughterhouses, and is raised on a heap of animal dung- why would you worry about someone being amorous with it? And if we're worried about people, why? What does it really matter? If your neighbor loves his cow, does it matter? Cows and dogs and other animals can't contract- just as children cannot- so there is no marriage for the petishests in the future- but who cares what people do with animals? I don't- as long as they aren't hurting them. I'm much more worried about how animals for mass consumption are raised and killed- from a public health standpoint and a compassion standpoint. Those with religious objections to bestiality can refrain- but I see no reason to put religious squeamishness in to public secular law- can you?

To: Paul Kern who wrote (112238)	5/29/2009 8:57:14 PM
From: cosmicforce	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 542007

>>Is bestiality next<< I REALLY doubt bestiality appeals to many people. I doubt there will be massive parings of humans and animals because gays are married. People that do that are probably already doing it. Should they be hunted down and put in prison? I don't think that is a good use of resources. People can be conducting bestiality in their outbuildings today without much fear of being caught. If there is howling and shrieking, it is a problem. Short of that, probably not my concern. My reading of the Declaration of Independence is "All PEOPLE are created equal..." which IMO sets the tone for the constitutional interpretation. Maybe in 300 years when we have all sorts of creatures made of various animal parts and genetic hybrid material it will be "All CREATURES are created equal.." but not today. As I said to Tim, the target is moving. I was being flippant, but my main objections to polygamy are the safety of the children and the potential for exploitation, but the law addresses this now with endangerment laws. The people that engage in it don't have a lot of property protections. Those are probably about the same as people who share common walls in condos. Polygamists can already live together today without legal consequence as I said.

To: Paul Kern who wrote (112238)	5/30/2009 11:44:34 AM
From: Katelew	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 542007

I'm surprised you somehow equate polygamy and bestiality. My best guess is that you view a male polygamist as being motivated by carnal needs for multiple sex partners? Those needs can be filled by having multiple mistresses or by prostitutes, with little or no responsibility to them....financial or otherwise. A polygamist, OTOH, is responsible for housing, feeding, and rearing the many children that follow even though often the bills for all this are partially met with govt. welfare payments.