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To: Road Walker who wrote (486060)	6/5/2009 5:54:24 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1577576

Even adjusting for higher costs in CA, and for its large population, CA's government spends more than most state governments. I'm willing to concede spending but you have concede taxes as well. Not when both taxes and spending are already too high. I know you will disagree but I'm not sure voters should have power over taxes I wouldn't say I agree, but I'm not sure I'd say I disagree wither. My position is not the opposite of yours, its not "taxes should be set or limited by referenda". I don't care much what form the limitations take (other than specific implementations that are particularly faulty and inefficiently designed). I just want lower taxes and spending.

To: Road Walker who wrote (486060)	6/5/2009 7:30:32 PM
From: tejek	Respond to of 1577576

The problem is of course that the politicians and to a great extent the voters (and in a few specific cases the courts which have mandated a small part of the spending, at least part of the prison expenses according to the article's Ted's quoted) don't really want to reign in spending either. I'm willing to concede spending but you have concede taxes as well. We have our own prop 13 here in Florida. I have people in my cul-de-sac who pay double my property taxes... for the same services. Blatantly unfair. Voters voted themselves a tax break based on 'I was here first so let's let the next guys carry the load'. They even made it portable so if I sell and buy another house I can take my 'tax break for life' with me. Taxes based on seniority... voted in by taxpayers years ago. I know you will disagree but I'm not sure voters should have power over taxes. They should wield their power over their representatives. Voters do wacky things They tried to do the same thing up here. To some degree they succeeded in OR. The Portland School District either went BK or almost went BK and had to close school earlier one year. Then in WA there was a guy named Eyeman.....who was setting up one initiative after another trying to reduce taxes. A couple of his initiatives succeeded and I started to worry. However, they caught him with his fingers in the till and he's more a clown these days than anything else. In fact, he sells bobble heads of himself. Weird.