To: TobagoJack who wrote (51170 ) 6/13/2009 5:38:47 AM From: elmatador Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 218876 Why Argentina became Argentina. And why Brazil became Brazil. Argentina attracted Europeans (Irish, Welsh, Italians and Jewish) which, politically, were way ahead of the country was economically. Thus they wanted things that the state and the economy could not deliver.] Brazil was not attractive to those Europeans because it was a much cruder country. Brazilians were basically replacing slave work with Europeans' work. Most of those Italians moved down to Argentina which was more civilized and more soft. They arrived there and aimed to create a more civil country and thus they became more politically advanced. The negada (Portuguese for bunch of negroes) prodded along and developed into what they are today without trying to emulate the Europeans. Thus creating a sui generis society. My Argentineans friends swear it was never ever said. It is a propaganda of the Brazilians themselves to denigrate Argentineans. The Brazucas say it is typical Argentinea cowardness denying what they said in 1920s. But fact is: One day in 1920s word came out that the Brazilians who were coming to play football with a team of small blacks and the press called macaquitos (small monkeys). You heard about Battle of Berne? That is what happen when someone provoke our Negroes... Battle of Berne The Battle of Berne is a name used to refer to the infamous football match played between Hungary and Brazil, a quarter-final at the 1954 World Cup. It was played on June 27, 1954 at the Wankdorf Stadium in Berne, Switzerland. The game became notorious for its violent tactics, brutal challenges and spiteful petulance. Hungary, with their legendary team of Mighty Magyars and Brazil, runners up at the 1950 World Cup, were two of the most outstanding teams at the 1954 World Cup. However, what could have been an outstanding match between two excellent sides degenerated into an ill tempered contest. It was dubbed the Battle of Berne by the British press. Never in my life have I seen such cruel tackling, observed The Times correspondent. During the match, English referee Arthur Ellis sent off three players after several punch ups on the pitch. Never miss a match between them either in La Bombonera or at Maracana stadium...