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To: Bill who wrote (13611)6/12/2009 2:56:28 PM
From: pompsander1 Recommendation  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 103300
 
Every spending bill?

Bills for ongoing operations in Iraq? Bills for ongoing (but not growing or new) government operations?

That list might be pretty short, even on the deficit hawk wing of the GOP.



To: Bill who wrote (13611)6/13/2009 12:41:44 AM
From: DuckTapeSunroof  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 103300
 
Re: "I'm talking about real fiscal conservatives."

No, I believe you are talking about FAKE 'fiscal conservatives', politicians and other such folk who PLAY like they are fiscal conservatives when the TV cameras lights are on... but who NEVER support ANY of the substantial structural changes that would be required to ever produce balanced budgets.

We have had ever-increasing federal borrowing and deficits for *decades* --- spanning periods where EACH of the two political Parties has held sway --- and the FAKE fiscal conservatives are always the same!

They only call for balanced budgets when the OTHER GUY is in charge, never when their own blokes are running things!

It is ALWAYS the OTHER GUY'S spending programs that are 'wasteful' and 'too much', NEVER THEIR OWN SAINTED PROJECTS.

And, the one CLEAR TEST, the one factor that UNITES ALL THE FAKE FISCAL CONSERVATIVES --- whether they be from the Dem, or from the GOP --- is that INVARIABLY they will ALWAYS OPPOSE EVERY SERIOUS EFFORT at structural reform of budgeting. (Those things that, without which, there will never be balanced budgets, never be parsimony and restraint....)

Such as such simple expedients as "Pay as you Go" rules for new spending proposals or, even more significant by far, a Balanced Budget Amendment for the US Constitution.

Support neither? Always point your finger at the 'other guy's' pet spending programs and never your own? Then you are LEGION! One of the public majority that comprises the mass that is FAKE FISCAL CONSERVATIVES.

People who love to carp about spending... but run for the hills when anything that stands a chance of reining in BOTH PARTY'S over-spending proclivities is proposed. :-(



To: Bill who wrote (13611)6/13/2009 8:00:46 AM
From: tonto2 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 103300
 
A fiscal conservative would never pimp for Obama.