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Politics : The Environmentalist Thread -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: average joe who wrote (24829)	6/15/2009 3:30:06 PM
From: Skywatcher	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 36917

warming and freezing are ALL BAD...doesn't matter which way it goes...it's all a big change made by you and I and the machines we worship

To: average joe who wrote (24829)	6/15/2009 4:02:30 PM
From: Maurice Winn	2 Recommendations Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 36917

One reason the Greenhouse Effect has been so easily popularized is that doomsterism sells, as newspaper editors all know and they fill their newspapers with fear, pain and suffering. There's an old saying, "If it bleeds, it leads." Animals have the same reaction - they crowd to see what horror has befallen something. It's instinct to reaction to threats. Humans are social animals, heavily influenced by the thinking of others, even if based on totally fallacious ideas - such as religions all being the one true path. The other reason is that people are scientifically illiterate, as ignorant as poop. But many of them can sort of get some of the basic ideas of the Greenhouse Effect because they know that glass houses are warm and keep the heat from the sun in. With simplistic analogous thinking they figure they have it sorted. When so-called scientists confirm to them that they have it right, they feel quite intelligent and scientific, which they like to feel because we all know ignorance is very undesirable. But take a closer look at the leaders of the mob, the "scientists". There is a pecking order in intellectual life and the pinnacle of it is not in the people who count rain drops. Those who can't do real science such as deciphering Calabi Yau equations in relativistic theory go for "sciences" in the "natural sciences". It's also really pleasant sailing around the oceans in boats and monitoring weather and keeping an eye on plants. It pays well too, being largely government work, with no need to get customers [who are ornery beasts at the best of times]. Look at those who have pretensions to understanding science here, like Wharfie, Neo, Koan - all obviously woefully ignorant. Wharfie knows a bit about gas transpiration, blood flows and stuff like that. So he thinks he's "scientific", but note that his reasoning powers extend only as far as insults. Which is the almost universal response of Greenhouse Effect doomsters. They don't go for reason, they go for the jugular. They make accusations of Denialism [even equating coal trains with Holocaust trains]. They want heresy trials = they actually really do think people should be prosecuted for not thinking correctly and daring to say what they think. They pose with intellectual snobbery [despite their ignorance] and talk about how "The Science" is settled and beyond dispute. It's all reminiscent of repressive religion with High Priests conducting heresy trials, insisting the world is flat. Fortunately, they won't burn witches at the stake because of the Greenhouse Effect, but with their desire for population reduction, it is easy to see that they'll come up with a Final Solution, killing two birds with one stone so to speak. They won't draw lots, they'll select for recycling those who think wrongly. It looks as though reality is going to get them before they really get going. Being covered in ice is going to slow them down. Snow cover happens fast. Mqurice