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To: combjelly who wrote (488523)6/17/2009 3:44:38 PM
From: TopCat1 Recommendation  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1573682
 
"Pretty much by definition, a scientist is someone who does research in one of the fields of science."

I think our disagreement on this relates to a different definition of what a "scientist" is...My definition is more along these lines....

A biologist is a scientist devoted to and producing results in biology through the study of organisms. Typically biologists study organisms and their relationship to their environment. Biologists involved in basic research attempt to discover underlying mechanisms that govern how organisms work. ...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biologist

In your mind, for a person to be called a "scientist" they must be involved in independent research as the following suggests but note also that biologists (scientists) also are employed in other areas of their science and do not require a Ph.D.

For biologists, the Ph.D. degree is usually necessary for independent research and for advancement to administrative positions. A master's degree is sufficient for some jobs in applied research or product development and for jobs in management, inspection, sales, and service. The bachelor's degree is adequate for some nonresearch jobs.

science.education.nih.gov;

It doesn't surprise me that with your recent experience in academia you would think the way you do about this but it is far from reality.

If we go back to your first comment on this topic, I think that 30% of scientists having PhDs is probably about right.

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