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To: Road Walker who wrote (488568)	6/17/2009 10:46:39 AM
From: i-node	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1571892

>> I didn't want your Fing war. Nobody did. We were attacked, douchebag.

To: Road Walker who wrote (488568)	6/17/2009 11:04:13 AM
From: tejek	Respond to of 1571892

Interestingly enough, there has not been that much commentary from the thread's peanut gallery re. Iran. You would think there would be given that they had this vision at least with Iraq of spreading democracy throughout the ME. Well, I just figured out why their voices are so muted........their leaders don't know where to take the whole Iran thing....and without their leaders telling them how to think, they are lost: GOP tries to find its pitch on Iran Iran is in chaos — and so is the usually well-oiled Republican message on foreign policy as the party struggles to find its voice on this pivotal world event. Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), a member of the Armed Services Committee, told POLITICO that the situation in Iran “clearly deserves a more forceful response” from President Barack Obama. Yet Sen. Mel Martinez (R-Fla.), when asked if Obama should be more forceful on Iran, answered: “Absolutely not.” Senate Republican Conference Chairman Lamar Alexander of Tennessee said he’s “not ready to criticize the president on Iran,” while Texas Sen. John Cornyn, another member of the GOP leadership, criticized Obama for not yet recognizing that “clearly that’s not a democracy you can deal with.” And two of the most influential GOP voices on foreign policy, Indiana Sen. Dick Lugar and Arizona Sen. John McCain, are on opposite sides. McCain, Obama’s 2008 rival and the top Republican on the Armed Services Committee, told NBC on Tuesday that the United States should make clear that it backs anti-Mahmoud Ahmadinejad demonstrators in their battle against “an oppressive, repressive regime.” Lugar, the top Republican on the Foreign Relations Committee, told POLITICO that Obama’s handling of the situation was “about right.” The dispute is striking for a party that has been remarkably unified on foreign policy and that took sharp aim at Obama’s approach with Iran during the 2008 campaign season, when the Democrat insisted he was open to talks with the Ahmadinejad government “without preconditions.” The GOP also doesn’t cut along neoconservative vs. realist lines; rather, it underscores how thorny political situations can be tough to navigate when your party doesn’t have a clear national leader to follow. It represents the uncertain politics of Iran’s unrest, with some Republicans unsure about getting too far ahead of the president and others eager to use the situation to attack a president who has taken a softer diplomatic approach than George W. Bush did. Following days of protests in Tehran and angry accusations from supporters of opposition candidate Mir Hossein Mousavi that Ahmadinejad stole the election, Obama broke his silence Monday in raising concerns about the election but stopped far short of condemning the vote. On Tuesday, Obama said “people’s voices [in Iran] should be heard and not suppressed,” yet he added that he didn’t want to be seen as “meddling” in the country’s affairs. Republicans critical of Obama say he needs to take a much tougher line of diplomacy and speak firmly against Ahmadinejad amid violence against opposition protesters and reports of tampering with election results and a crackdown on the media. Pages 1 2 politico.com