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To: GROUND ZERO™ who wrote (14027)	6/21/2009 10:57:40 PM
From: Proud Deplorable	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 103300

Iran is not a dangerous place whatsoever. Iranians don't have a criminal mind like some people in Mexico. People should stop supporting some guy who did not win a democratic election and put him in jail with all the drug traffickers and thieves and what have you that are tolerated in N. America. Al Gore had every right to tell people who voted for him to take to the streets because Bush stole the election but he didn't What I like about Islam is there is almost no crime in strict Islamic countries compared to Europe and N America. Malaysia, Indonesia, Singapore, Saudi and countless other countries have almost no major crime. They all give major criminals the death penalty. Sell drugs in Singapore, get caught, lose your court cases and bye bye.

To: GROUND ZERO™ who wrote (14027)	6/21/2009 11:28:51 PM
From: pompsander	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 103300

Zbig On The Neocons I'm not the only one infuriated that they have the cojones to keep pontificating. Brzezinski: "And there are those who are supporting the regime, who in many respects are like our neocons -- very similar to our neocons." Zbig believes that Obama so far has been handling the crisis correctly, and again mentioned the neocons: "He has struck absolutely the right note... He's identifying himself morally, historically with what is happening in Iran. But he's not engaging himself politically. He's not interfering, because that... could be exploited by the neocons in Iran to crush the revolution, to wipe it out." Referring to those who are criticizing Obama for not being tougher, "One of the paradoxes here domestically is that many of the people who call for the most energetic involvement by Obama in the process, they simply would prefer to have an American-Iranian showdown. "Whereas, in fact, if there is a change of regime in Iran, there's a greater chance of accommodation." Looking down the road, Zbig adds, "...once we no longer have a Manichean, black-and-white, good-and-evil type of a regime confronting us in a hostile fashion, it will be easier to deal with the specific problems that we confront." The key point is that many neocons actively want war with Iran and they are doing all they can in this crisis to precipitate one. Whether it be hoping for an Ahmadinejad win, or trying to goad Obama into making this critical uprising into a US vs Iran showdown, their goal is conflict. Everything they say needs to be filtered through that prism. www.andrewsullivan.com