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To: combjelly who wrote (489787)	6/22/2009 11:33:09 AM
From: i-node	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1574691

>> You might be surprised. CJ, I lived in Texas for many years. I would not be surprised. To make the claim that only a few Iranians still hold a grudge against the US for meddling in their country 50 years ago shows a great deal of ignorance. My point is these people are fighting for their freedom. This isn't about the election, this is about their efforts to be free people. They are not worried about what happened 50 year ago. Obama has blundered his way through this. Although he may have believed there was no difference between the two (I do), he should never have publicly stated it; it was effectively a knock against the protesters, who felt it was important enough at the time to take to the streets. Then, he goes through a period of days, PARALYZED WITH FEAR. "Should I say something? Should I stay out of it? What to do?" Finally, he makes a lukewarm statement after it becomes clear this had the potential to tip over to a full tilt revolution. By the time he made that statement, something more forceful was called for. Does any of this matter? Perhaps not to the Iranians. But it totally undercuts Obama's foreign policy credibility. He now looks weak, tepid, frozen, fearful, and generally incompetent. There are those who say Obama has handed this correctly -- even some on the Right like Scarborough. They could not be more wrong. Since WWII the US has been the de facto leader of the free world and could be counted on to, at a minimum, provide rhetorical support for the efforts of those living in tyranny to break free. In addition, a free Iran is a HUGELY IMPORTANT development for our national security. Obama has seriously mangled this situation.

To: combjelly who wrote (489787)	6/22/2009 8:59:55 PM
From: tejek	Respond to of 1574691

Sigh. Ok. What about China and Japan? How many Chinese were around during the Rape of Nanking? Not many. How many still hold a grudge against Japan? A great deal. Or Korea and Japan. Or Argentina and the Falklands. The Brits have controlled those islands for over a hundred years. Or, well, the list is very long. People hold grudges for a long time. Centuries, sometimes. To make the claim that only a few Iranians still hold a grudge against the US for meddling in their country 50 years ago shows a great deal of ignorance. Look how long the South has held a grudge over the Civil War. My God.....they still fly the confederate flag.....with pride. Northern Ireland has been waging a religious war for over a century. People's memories are long when they want them to be.