To: Greg or e who wrote (2663 ) 6/23/2009 5:34:36 PM From: LLCF Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 69300 <If you can't even affirm that God is Personal and is the Creator of the universe, then you have no business calling yourself a Christian. > Well, coming from you that's pretty meaningless. Further, as I never said I didn't believe god created the universe (standard Catholic and probably Christian...guess you forgot that part in your 'wild eyed attacks':siliconinvestor.com ... but nice try sneaking it in anyway) that leaves us with your pet issue of "personal God"... which you can't even define OR discuss what it is you're talking about. <You will not find any official Catholic documents that deny either of these points. > Well, we're down to "point"... your "personal god"... which, no I wouldn't expect to find an official Catholic document about it (AS I SAID), since they probably wouldn't know what the hell you're talking about!! If it's SUCH A NO BRAINER for a Catholic to know all about it... you should be able to tell me all about it AND find links very quickly, I'll assume therefore it's simply a made up concept (like your redefinition of creationsim) and move on. Meanwhile I reserve right on "personal God" till I know what the hell you're talking about... in the meantime, I'm fine with "your God is better than my God" if it makes you feel good. :)) <<Immanence is a side issue > Sure, just giving you 'colour' on my bent. Never heard of Mathew Fox... no need to set up a straw man as I gave you several persons, including those sitting plenty well with the Church in case you didn't notice, with reams of writings which I"m not surprised you'd be too lazy to read... you apparently didn't know what the hell I was talking about and ran out and did a quick search. So anyway...I"m still a Catholic Christian in good standing FYI who believes in evolution... like most Catholics including the Pope: "There are so many scientific proofs in favor of evolution, which appears to be a reality we can see," he told Italian clergy in 2007. "americancatholic.org Brings us back to one of your earliest posts... I think your statement seems to fit YOU perfectly:Message 25723028 <<You seem like a bright young man, but I don't think you have thought through this issue quite enough.>> I'm starting to notice it looks like you don't know shit about evolution, spirituality, OR religion you know that? DAK