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To: LLCF who wrote (2680)	6/25/2009 11:12:48 PM
From: Greg or e	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 69300

"I have no problem with God the creator... don't know why you drivel on about it??" If you had just said that at the beginning I certainly would have simply made my point and moved on. As it is: you continue to slander and lie about me so I feel I need to respond if only to set the record straight. "such a "simple" concept can't be explained (by you), strangely enough! LOL" This is simply a bold faced lie. I asked you if you believe in a Personal Creator God and you immediately started with the word games again. asking: "What is a 'personal' god?" ANSWER: Catholicism has always held that God (with a capital G btw) is a personal (actually tri-personal) being. *A personal God is one that is self aware, rational, volitional, has emotions, and is able to act.* Alvin Plantinga on God and Personhood "God acts just by willing: he wills that things be a certain way, and they are that way. (God said "Let there be light"; and there was light." afterall.net My point is very simple. If you believe that there is a Creator then you are by definition some kind of Creationist. No big deal and certainly nothing you need to be ashamed of. Message 25727821 ...................... A clear unambiguous explanation/definition and a corroborating link. Still you balked and asked for some more proof of what constitutes a "personal" God. I didn't have time to transpose any of the Theology texts that I have but if you had even bothered to explore your own link newadvent.org then you would have read this: Divine personality "When we say that God is a personal being we mean that He is intelligent and free and distinct from the created universe. Personality as such expresses perfection, and if human personality as such connotes imperfection, it must be remembered that, as in the case of similar predicates, this connotation is excluded when we attribute personality to God. It is principally by way of opposition to Pantheism that Divine personality is emphasized by the Theistic philosopher. Human personality, as we know it, is one of the primary data of consciousness, and it is one of those created perfections which must be realized formally (although only analogically) in the First Cause. But Pantheism would require us to deny the reality of any such perfection, whether in creatures or in the Creator, and this is one of the fundamental objections to any form of Pantheistic teaching. Regarding the mystery of the Trinity or three Divine Persons in God, which can be known only by revelation, it is enough to say here that properly understood the mystery contains no contradiction, but on the contrary adds much that is helpful to our inadequate knowledge of the infinite." Your non responses combined with your apparent rejection of a "Personal" God and the fact that you don't seem to respect your god enough to capitalize the word leads me to think that you don't worship the God of the bible but rather some impersonal redefinition. BTW I didn't say that you were a Pagan but that such a view is in opposition to the Christian God and that your view that God is impersonal was closer to Pantheism than to Christianity. Therefore; holding such a view puts you in that "camp".