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Strategies & Market Trends : The coming US dollar crisis -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Real Man who wrote (20993)6/26/2009 5:40:45 PM
From: Slumdog  Respond to of 71456
 
Vi,

found this over on the Real Estate thread,.......

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To: Real Man who wrote (20993)6/26/2009 5:51:42 PM
From: axial  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 71456
 
I understand what you and others believe. Up to a point I believe many of the same things.

I just have a problem with oversimplification when the realities are complex and non-linear. Possible outcomes are not binary, and each possible outcome has multiple possible outcomes of its own.

It's true that the problem is economic, but it's also multidisciplinary. It's local and global. It's geopolitical and political. It's debt, and how the debtor interacts with creditors. It's how creditors think, and how they define their self-interest. It's whether the US wants the consequences of default - even if it looks like the only way - and whether other nations want the consequences of US default. You can run economic scenarios, you can run transactional (game theory) scenarios, but you just don't know.

We both agree that the US has crippled itself in many ways, so it's natural to speculate that it will never regain enough economic strength to repay. Britain took a half-century. Finland (with reparations to Russia, too) and the Netherlands - were decimated. They were in far worse condition than the US, and took decades to pay with some pauses.

I would never say default won't happen - never. I just think there are other possibilities. None of them are pretty.

Jim



To: Real Man who wrote (20993)7/27/2009 1:35:23 PM
From: Pogeu Mahone  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 71456
 
It took Rome over 500 years to go to zero from the top.
Got life extension?


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However, if the derivative Ponzi scheme gets propped by the
printing press forever, the dollar will go to zero. So
far we are on the road to zero, IMHO, and it may come faster
than many suspect.