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Politics : A US National Health Care System? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Lane3 who wrote (7219)	6/27/2009 9:35:45 PM
From: skinowski	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 42652

just read a study recently that demonstrated that installing stents does not improve outcomes. Even statins, their other rationalization, don't improve outcomes for the vast majority of patients. Any chance you could recall what study that was? Sounds like something which claims to throw, basically, the entire modern cardiology under the bus. I'd be curious to see.

To: Lane3 who wrote (7219)	6/27/2009 9:58:11 PM
From: skinowski	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 42652

I am not accusing doctors of doing that deliberately and callously. No, but you seem to "interpret" them as lemmings and rationalizers (LOL). I think you may be giving in to propaganda. Most of what docs do is what's called "evidence based medicine". You can't have a procedure or a medication approved unless you can show that they are better than placebo.

To: Lane3 who wrote (7219)	6/27/2009 10:07:57 PM
From: skinowski	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 42652

aspect of health care reform that studies outcomes, this is one of the reason's I'm in favor of it despite the risks of the info being used to our detriment.) Outcomes and effectiveness are being studied and compared all the time. Open any issue of the NEJM and you'll see. That's something that the entire medical literature on the planet is busy discussing at all times. To think that outcome-related analysis is somehow unique to the proposed mysterious "reform" is totally incorrect.