To: elmatador who wrote (51791 ) 6/28/2009 11:11:45 AM From: dvdw© Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 218131 emotional puffery. "Now that we are done with it, we only do not want to enjoy the ride we want, to show everything that was put on our way, and want everyone to hear about it." Than why not make something out of the potentials within the shirtless and yourselves instead of believing your shirtless because you didnt understand the game in the first place.? Why do you have no rhetoric to move Brazillians and the rest of the world to some higher level? Beyond socialist hegemony? there is no vision in what you've stated. Same ole socialist garbage, check the record if you dont believe me. I've heard nothing accept how lula intends to recover some deep oil off the coasts, and for this he is spending political capital, as if its already a done deal. Once he borrows Chevrons or Exxons expertise, will he expropriate the contribution they made? probably, because his output/proclamations are based on explicit conditional requirements which may or may not ever see the light of day....at any given future date. lula is just in an historical sweet spot like his predecessors were, with rubber, it will come to the same end, commodity economies shrink in accordance with rapidity to replace high cost merchandise via substitution. Do you see a single thing that tells the world Brazil will be the low cost producer? NO instead we get hegemony of circumstance married to extortion for the purpose of political largesse. same with chavez whats he providing the world accept extortion....bellicose extortion, to facilitate his own ambition. wheres your space program bobo? or your deep sea agenda to enable V to do anything more for itself, than what its shown to be capable of. Please remit the facts and address the disconnects between taking away your oppositions free speech in service to your own petty self interest.... what a joke. Certainly lula believes in the contrivance he's projecting, but that is not a guarantee of anything. I like Brazil and Brazillians....but lets be honest....central planning is puffery...want proof....check the record, brazils or any other socialists states. great brazillians are not possible without a great brazil, and a great brazil would recognize the potential of the shirtless as manifest potential, not limited or mined by state imposed constraints up to some level of state accordance. Degrees of freedom to shape our world is a difficult concept to any person enlisted to elitist compartmentalization...... its too bad, plastic fantastic history....see right through it, because it is what it is.