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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (67544)6/28/2009 5:57:05 PM
From: tonto1 Recommendation  Respond to of 224759
 
The situation finally forced the issue. We can go through Barney Frank and Co, pushing for more loans, or be honest and say both parties did not do their jobs.



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (67544)6/28/2009 6:06:21 PM
From: longnshort3 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 224759
 
6 States Want to Nullify Obamacare With Opt Out Law

By Warner Todd Huston(Profile) on Healthcare

Six states are currently looking to add an "opt out" law to their books to protect citizens from the possibility of a national healthcare plan imposed by federal fiat.

Arizona started the ball rolling by introducing the Health Care Freedom Act, a voting initiative that will be put before voters on the 2010 ballot. If accepted by the majority of the voters, Arizona will be able to opt out of any federal healthcare laws passed by Washington. Indiana, Minnesota, New Mexico, North Dakota and Wyoming are considering similar measures.

The arrogance of Congress and the president worries many of these state lawmakers, some even consider Obama's healthcare policies a naked power grab.

Some state legislators say they worry that a government-mandated program will effectively eliminate their traditional role in regulating health insurers — an important power base. Others raise constitutional concerns. "The real goal of national health insurance exchange isn't competition — it's a federal power grab that flies in the face of the Tenth Amendment," says Wisconsin state Rep. Leah Vukmir, a Republican.

Just for a point of reference, here is the Tenth Amendment to the United States Constitution:

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

Now, I've read the Constitution several times and I don't see a single place in it where it talks about hospitals, doctors, or healthcare, nor especially where it might say that the federal government should control all such activities from Congress and pay for it all out of the national treasury. Then again, the Constitution hasn't mattered to any Democrat for decades, so why worry about that now?

In any case, this is an interesting movement on the part of six brave states. Let us hope that this idea spreads to others and Obamacare, should we be so unfortunate enough to have it pass through Congress, could be stopped dead at the borders of the various states. redstate.com



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (67544)6/28/2009 8:19:47 PM
From: lorne4 Recommendations  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 224759
 
ken...you may enjoy this....

Obama adviser not ready to back a second stimulus

Jun 28 02:08 PM US/Eastern
By PHILIP ELLIOTT
Associated Press Writer
breitbart.com

WASHINGTON (AP) - A senior White House adviser said Sunday the economic stimulus has not yet "broken the back of the recession" but set aside calls for a second massive spending bill. Republicans, meanwhile, called spending under way a failure.
White House adviser David Axelrod urged patience for President Barack Obama's $787 billion economic stimulus package in the face of sliding poll numbers. Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, a past and potentially future presidential candidate, said the spending was ill-designed and served only to expand the size of government.

Republicans have seized on the public's growing unease over government debt and spending to challenge the popular president. Sensing their own vulnerabilities, Obama's top advisers have ramped up their defense of spending that is incomplete and going slower than many had hoped.

"You know, we take the long view on this. Look, when the president signed the stimulus package—the economic recovery package—he said it's going to take a while for this to work," Axelrod said. "And we're going to go through some rough times, and unemployment is going to go up, and ... we have to work our way through this."

Some economists and business leaders have called for a second spending bill designed to help guide the economy through a downturn that has left millions without jobs. Axelrod said it's too early to know if more spending would be needed or if the administration would seek more money from Congress.

"Most of the stimulus money—the economic recovery money—is yet to be spent. Let's see what impact that has," Axelrod said. "I'm not going to make any judgment as to whether we need more. We have confidence that the things we're doing are going to help, but we've said repeatedly, it's going to take time, and it will take time. It took years to get into the mess we're in. It's not going to take months to get out of it."

Republicans, though, aren't waiting.

"I don't think the stimulus that was passed is going to be much help," Romney said. "The stimulus that was passed was, unfortunately, focused more on government and creating employment inside government than it was creating jobs in the private sector."

Another Republican, Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., said Obama and his Democratic allies rammed through the spending bill without Republican support or significant input.

"He missed a chance to have a bipartisan stimulus package that would have created more jobs and helped people who'd lost their jobs," Graham said. "I hope they'll rethink it."

In the meantime, the current spending isn't doing enough, they said.

"For the millions of extra people who are going to be unemployed, it has not been successful," Romney said. "It has failed in delivering the stimulus that was needed at the time it was needed."

Axelrod acknowledged the economic challenges and unemployment inching close to 10 percent nationally.

"Well, there's no doubt that ... we have not broken the back of the recession," he said. "No one's happy with that number."

Republicans have seized on the public's growing unease over government debt and spending to challenge the popular president. Sensing their own vulnerabilities, Obama's top advisers have ramped up their defense of spending that is incomplete and going slower than many had hoped.

"You know, we take the long view on this. Look, when the president signed the stimulus package—the economic recovery package—he said it's going to take a while for this to work," Axelrod said. "And we're going to go through some rough times, and unemployment is going to go up, and ... we have to work our way through this."

Some economists and business leaders have called for a second spending bill designed to help guide the economy through a downturn that has left millions without jobs. Axelrod said it's too early to know if more spending would be needed or if the administration would seek more money from Congress.

"Most of the stimulus money—the economic recovery money—is yet to be spent. Let's see what impact that has," Axelrod said. "I'm not going to make any judgment as to whether we need more. We have confidence that the things we're doing are going to help, but we've said repeatedly, it's going to take time, and it will take time. It took years to get into the mess we're in. It's not going to take months to get out of it."

Republicans, though, aren't waiting.

"I don't think the stimulus that was passed is going to be much help," Romney said. "The stimulus that was passed was, unfortunately, focused more on government and creating employment inside government than it was creating jobs in the private sector."

Another Republican, Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., said Obama and his Democratic allies rammed through the spending bill without Republican support or significant input.

"He missed a chance to have a bipartisan stimulus package that would have created more jobs and helped people who'd lost their jobs," Graham said. "I hope they'll rethink it."

In the meantime, the current spending isn't doing enough, they said.

"For the millions of extra people who are going to be unemployed, it has not been successful," Romney said. "It has failed in delivering the stimulus that was needed at the time it was needed."

Axelrod acknowledged the economic challenges and unemployment inching close to 10 percent nationally.

"Well, there's no doubt that ... we have not broken the back of the recession," he said. "No one's happy with that number."



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (67544)6/28/2009 11:04:47 PM
From: Hope Praytochange  Respond to of 224759
 
By SUZANNE SATALINE

ALBANY, N.Y. -- Through three weeks of stalemate in the New York State Senate, Gov. David Paterson has pleaded with and threatened senators to force them to return to work -- so far to no avail. In the face of his apparent ineffectiveness, the senators' antics are starting to hurt him as much as the legislature.

On Sunday, the Senate's two feuding factions were set to respond to the governor's sixth-straight call for a special session by convening separately, gaveling in and out within minutes -- satisfying the requirement but doing nothing to resolve their fight over which party controls the chamber.

At a news conference Thursday, Mr. Paterson sounded like a forlorn character in a Samuel Beckett play: "Today is the same as yesterday, yesterday is the same as the day before. Once again the Senate has done no work."

Senators on both sides seemed to agree on only one thing: that the governor can't tell them what to do. In the past week, the Senate has rejected the governor's every idea to end the leadership crisis, including bringing in mediators and a judge to run the session. The governor is "looking a little foolish," said Republican Jim Winner of Elmira.

Supporters say the governor is doing the best he can in an extreme situation, including calling a Sunday session and asking a state Supreme Court judge for an order compelling the senators to meet with a quorum of at least 32 members so they can vote on bills. The senators have been appearing with just 31 members in the chamber at one time, not enough to vote. The judge will consider the request on Monday, a Paterson aide said.

Mr. Paterson is in a convoluted constitutional bind. Although he has the power to call special sessions, the constitution doesn't advise what to do when one body refuses to work. Gubernatorial spokeswoman Marissa Shorenstein notes: "He does not have any power, once they're in session, to force them to act."

Yet, many of the political tools Gov. Paterson has wielded -- including a pronouncement last Thursday that he would ask the state treasurer not to pay the senators' per diem expenses while in Albany -- were inconsequential.

Mr. Paterson's office sought to ramp up the pressure, on Friday saying he would halt disbursement of nearly $19 million in members' earmarks for pet projects in the senators' home districts.

Some observers suggested Mr. Paterson should go even further, perhaps threatening to strip senate budgets and deny them campaign money.

When he ascended to the job a year ago, after Elliot Spitzer resigned, Mr. Paterson was hailed as a well-liked, experienced legislator who would temper the acrimony of the Spitzer era. But since then he has faced a stream of criticism. He promised to extract deep concessions from state unions and then gave them what they wanted, while resorting to a tax increase. He appeared indecisive for weeks on who should fill Hillary Clinton's U.S. Senate seat.

The current crisis began after two state Senate Democrats bolted to the Republicans, handing the Republicans the chamber's majority. One Democrat soon returned to his party, leaving the factions tied at 31 members each. After the regular legislative session ended June 22 without a brokered deal, Gov. Paterson called the senators back for a special session -- and has done so every day since.

Chaos turned to absurdity Tuesday, when the Democrats and Republicans staged two separate but simultaneous legislative sessions, passing bills in their conference, while mostly refusing to acknowledge the opposing side. Both lawmakers and the governor's staff have questioned the constitutionality of the legislation that was passed. Caught in limbo are some pressing bills, including billions of dollars in new tax money that municipalities need to meet their budgets.

The fallout for the governor in the Senate's antics was underscored by a recent Quinnipiac University poll that asked who was to blame for the Albany standoff. A quarter of those surveyed blamed Republicans; 21% blamed Democrats. Another 23% fingered Gov. Paterson.
—Dionne Searcey contributed to this article.

Write to Suzanne Sataline at suzanne.sataline@wsj.com