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To: Metacomet who wrote (57270)	6/30/2009 3:52:32 PM
From: Wharf Rat	Respond to of 149317

I'm in the middle of writing to DiFi, re health care, telling her she is a Goldwater R. :>)

To: Metacomet who wrote (57270)	6/30/2009 4:33:28 PM
From: nigel bates	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 149317

>>Jefferson always seemed to me to be the most brilliant of the founding fathers.<< Ben Franklin, surely ? Whatever else he was, Goldwater was hardly brilliant - and he certainly lacked Jefferson's way with words. Did you ever read Perlstein's "Barry Goldwater and the Unmaking of the American Consensus" ? Great book, which treats all those involved in the politics of the time (irrespective of party) with equal skepticism.

To: Metacomet who wrote (57270)	6/30/2009 4:52:42 PM
From: koan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 149317

Jeffersopn was different than Goldwater. Goldwater was a conservative and Jefferson was a liberal. Big difference. Jefferson was a much bigger thinker than Goldwater. Not too many thinkers that ever lived in Jefferson's league. Shakespeare, Ben Frankilin, Lincoln, FDR, voltair!! Gold water really represented the intelligencia in the 50's. We are an existential society now, so Goldwater is moot. Goldwater could never endure an existential world. Certainly no place for his philosophy. Jefferson would have had no trouble with existentialism, no would Plato or socrates..