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To: Spekulatius who wrote (34832)7/3/2009 3:25:06 AM
From: Paul Senior  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 78717
 
Yes, ALL's tangible bv has been crushed, and ALL's dividend chopped.

Of course, so has the stock price. The current dividend yield annualizes to about 3.3%, which isn't very attractive. And that management had to cut the dividend is itself very worrisome.

At the current lowered stock price, p/bv = 1.05 and p/tbv = 1.13. That's not too bad. In normal years p/bv has varied roughly between 1.4-1.8. If credit market improves and/or management can get better control of the company's poor investments, the stock could trade at those p/bv levels once again. (I hope.)

Here's where I am with the top market cap P&C companies:

biz.yahoo.com

BRKA: Looking to short BRKb
AIG: Avoiding - I've no interest in looking at it.
TRV: Holding an exploratory position. Maybe an add @35 on no adverse news
ACE: Building a position if/as stock continues to fall.
CB: Building a position if/as stock continues to fall
ALL: Holding on to my losing position
L, PGR, FFH, etc. -- no interest



To: Spekulatius who wrote (34832)9/28/2009 11:09:30 PM
From: Spekulatius  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 78717
 
CB- I sold at 50.7$ on what I figured was a jump induced by the Barrons' article. Oh well...more cash to worry about.