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To: carranza2 who wrote (313822)	7/9/2009 9:48:17 AM
From: MrLucky	10 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793897

She's a disaster, in the final analysis, because she is utterly unelectable. She arouses a depth of anti-Palin emotion which is just as strong as that of her supporters. Interesting crystal ball you have there. (1)Palin has not announced anything specifically yet. (2) The election is three years away. (3) You have declared Obama to be worse than Carter. (4) If so, this gives most any republican a shot at winning in 2012. (5) Reagan rode in high on Carter's foreign and domestic policy mistakes. (6) Reagan garnered many union and blue collar votes. Someone like a Palin could as well. I see the GOP issue differently. (1) The GOP needs to fire Michael Steele and put someone in the job who is truly outside the beltway. (2) Unless they can get over, "let the old guy (read old senator - Dole, McCain) have a chance at running", they will continue to lose every election. (3) They need to fully concentrate on getting new blood in the House and Senate. The senior types need to be retired, period. The vast majority have long ago served their purpose, ie Orin Hatch, McCain etc. They could start by looking at two well known political and activist USSC Judge votes (Ginsburg and Sortamayor) and toss those republicans who voted Yea.

To: carranza2 who wrote (313822)	7/9/2009 10:06:31 AM
From: Brumar89	12 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793897

She arouses a depth of anti-Palin emotion which is just as strong as that of her supporters. You don't see it now because we are not in a cycle. But it is there. Excuse me, but that thing you think Nadine doesn't see is a major topic of conversation here. We sure as hell do see it. everybody does. It arouses sympathy for her and anger at her attackers. Not pity, but shared feelings - we know the folks who revile Palin have the same contempt for us. The challenge for the GOP is to show the base ... Stop right there. Anyone in the GOP leadership who thinks "we have to straighten out our base" is out of touch with it. And the extent of her ambition. Ambition? She just resigned. She just told an interviewer, "If I die politically, I die. So be it." When has anyone ever heard a politician say that?

To: carranza2 who wrote (313822)	7/9/2009 2:28:38 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	12 Recommendations Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793897

Can you remember the strength of the anti-Reagan feeling in the 1970s, c2? Remember the talk about drafting President Ford to run for VP with him because he was such a 'dunce' that he needed the help? At base, what has Sarah Palin done that is so terrible to earn all this anti-Palin feeling? They loathe her because she muffed a hostile Katie Couric interview? They hate her because she's folksy? Hardly. They loathe her because they fear her potential. You don't see Vanity Fair doing hit pieces on Mitt Romney just now, do you? or the other potential GOP candidates? Much less John McCain. He won't run again, so why bother? The very strength of their feeling tells me that under the right circumstances, she just might be electable.