To: Gib Bogle who wrote (52324 ) 7/13/2009 5:21:02 AM From: Maurice Winn 3 Recommendations Respond to of 217887 How can "corporate interests" control a government when they don't have a vote? It is only because voters go on voting for Big Government and Bludgerville that the corporate interests can get a piece of the action too. If voters don't want "corporate interests" to control the government, they won't. In the stupendously huge boondoggle which is the USA, even $100 bn cash to AIG, GS, GM and co is just chump change, so it just slips through between the line items somewhere, not even subject to Congressional review I think. More or less control of GS is irrelevant to whether the government decides to hand over OPM to them. If there was less control, they'd get the money, and if there was more control, they'd still get the money. If there was more control, they might even get the Supreme Court ordering money be given to them because they were controlled by the government. All that's needed is to prosecute frauds and thieves, sell their body parts at auction to the highest bidders, and leave capitalists to deploy their capital as- they see fit within the laws laid down for protection of the commons [such as air, ocean, rivers, spectrum, public spaces] and without unduly risking the health and safety of people. "Unduly risking" is a wide-open term which has been filled by OSH in NZ [at great cost to everyone and of dubious health and safety merit]. I have had lots of unsafe and health-damaging jobs so I'm well aware that some care and attention to health and safety issues is important. But there is also a lot of bureaucratic overkill in such matters which ends up costing a lot more than is saved. Fettered capitalism is not capitalism. To the extent that capitalism is fettered, it is socialism, or worse. I wonder what sort of fetters you think would be a good thing. "First we need another 100,000 government spivs to run it ...". Mqurice