To: Greg or e who wrote (81280 ) 7/14/2009 10:32:34 AM From: Solon 1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 82486 "Do you think they feel any pain when they are killed? ""Many physicians and medical researchers believe that fetuses can begin to feel pain sometime during the third trimester. This is long after: Essentially all miscarriages occur, Ectopic pregnancies have been dealt with, and After about 99% of abortions are performed. Some researchers suggest fetuses cannot sense pain, no matter how far along in pregnancy. They believe that pain can only be felt after birth. religioustolerance.org 2001: Statement by a panel of experts in the UK: The issue of fetal pain was addressed by a working group appointed by the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists in the United Kingdom. The panel consisted of experts in fetal development, law and bioethics. Dr. Anne McLaren headed the group. She commented: "Fetal awareness of pain is a very emotive topic, of particular concern to pregnant women, but we have tried to approach it without preconceptions, to examine the scientific evidence dispassionately, and to identify areas where further research is urgently needed.' 9 The group determined that pain can only be felt by a fetus after nerve connections became established between two parts of its brain: the cortex and the thalamus. This happens about 26 weeks from conception. Professor Maria Fitzgerald of University College London, author of the working group's report, says that "little sensory input" reaches the brain of the developing fetus before 26 weeks. "Therefore reactions to noxious stimuli cannot be interpreted as feeling or perceiving pain." 8They recommended that the administration of painkillers should be considered before an abortion for any fetus which is 24 or more weeks since conception. This would give a 2 week safety factor in case the date of conception is incorrectly calculated. Recent statistics show that of the 177,225 abortions performed in Britain during a recent year, only 92 (0.05%) occurred after 24 weeks." When abortions are legal they are generally done as soon as the pregnancy is discovered. Your pictures are deliberate and stupid misrepresentations of a sensitive issue. If you were a woman (or just a sensitive person) you would not be so dreadfully and disgracefully insensitive to the feelings of people who find it necessary to abort their fertilized eggs. _______________________________________________"I use my forceps to reach down and pull the barb-less hook out of the fish's mouth without even taking it out of the water. " I surely don't know what the Hell you are fishing for and interfering in the lives of these creatures by struggling with them in the water when you are apparently not fishing to feed your family. What in Hell could you be valuing??? Why don't you terrorize rabbits or deer or dogs or something and then let them go. You could stick a big pike through their cheek or something. Oh well. I hope you will at least do this: # Play your fish quickly. # "Land" fish in water as deep as fish is long. Avoid plastic nets, they scrape off protective slime. # Grasp fish at base of tail (a wet cloth may help). Keep fingers out of its gills and don't squeeze! # Revive fish by facing it into gentle current or gently swish it to and fro to force water through gills. # Release fish only after it strongly swims from your grasp. # TOTAL time out of water shouldn't exceed 15 seconds