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To: Bearcatbob who wrote (115556)	7/16/2009 9:26:28 AM
From: epicure	Respond to of 541978

Look- you were saying I didn't like the "facts" in your previous posts. Go back- find a fact for me. I couldn't find any, and I went back to look. Ok, now you want to change the subject. fine- just realize I know there wasn't a fact to be found in your other posts, and arguing about opinions is like arguing about waste chutes- at least when the opinions are very polarized. It's boring, unless you are scatologically inclined. "broker" is not a word, unless you mean an agent, and no, we are not "broke". Look up the meaning of the word. We are not insolvent, and we can meet our credit obligations. It may be your opinion that we are "broke" but imo it is not an opinion supported by the facts. I don't want Obama to raise taxes now- perhaps you missed that in your ardent quest to argue. I'm glad he's NOT talking about it now. I don't want Obama to "agree" right now- because it might chill the economy. And yes, I think you are wrong about the train wreck. I think we almost had the wreck with the financials. While it is possible we have another wreck, I think it unlikely. I think we are headed for higher taxes and inflation- I doubt the calamity deflation folks, some of whom I have read recently (in fact, I think they may very well be contrarian indicators.) I think we are headed for a slow recovery which I hope is not jeopardized by premature tax increases- although taxes must go up eventually. That's my opinion.

To: Bearcatbob who wrote (115556)	7/16/2009 10:40:36 AM
From: Steve Lokness	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541978

Bearcat; The fact is we are broke - is that in dispute? The fact is that Obama is making us broker - is that in dispute? Lets pretend the US is a huge corporation. You say we are broke, the corporation is broke. Hard to argue with that fact. The last CEO was reckless and made some huge blunders that created the dire situation. ......Soooooo the shareholders fired his dumb ass and many of the Board members - Congress. We hired a new CEO. That new CEO unfortunately was obligated by all of the dumb ass CEO's blunders and his policies. The new CEO decided to borrow some money and to implement new ideas and policies to restore financial health to his company. Will the new ideals by the new CEO work? Hard to tell but the employees should support his efforts as the success of the company is their success. If they sit in a corner and pout they offer nothing but negativity and their coworkers will just shun them as their group gets smaller and smaller. steve