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To: epicure who wrote (115658)7/17/2009 10:57:21 AM
From: cosmicforce  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 541853
 
When it comes to theory the "little guys" do stand in the face of conventional science which makes such people seem heroic to non-scientifically trained people like the man who faced down the tanks in Tienanmen Square . Non-scientists look at Einstein who stood science on its head and say he was JUST a patent clerk - no he was WORKING as a patent clerk. He had the training. What separates the cranks from the savant is that the savant is ultimately proved right, but also answers questions that have plagued the main stream scientific community. Einstein answered questions like what is the speed of gravity and why does apparently massless light get bent.

The deniers all seem to have one reactionary voice - "Nothing bad is really happening and we can ignore our impact as inconsequential..." - that is clearly not the case. Even if CO2 wasn't bad, all the mercury and other pollutants are. We are doing unprecedented destruction of our ecosystems and the truly "novel and unique" vantage point is not to say that "it doesn't matter".

A novel viewpoint would be to show that despite deforestation and mining carbon that the biodiversity is actually increasing (which it isn't) and that while CO2 goes up temperatures go down through a new and novel mechanism not previously understood (which they aren't).

I feel that the deniers have an agenda that true greats like Newton and Einstein didn't have. Yes, what they (Einstein/Newton) said was not necessarily well accepted initially, but they had experiment on their side and a really sound theoretical basis for showing why their ideas were better.