To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (315445 ) 7/18/2009 7:58:59 PM From: goldworldnet 1 Recommendation Respond to >>Thanks for the Great Post Nadine. I reformatted it a little.<<Why do you like the plan we have now? What we have now does function, if imperfectly. What makes you have faith that the plan this Congress slams together in a month and passes on a party line vote before anybody has had a chance to even read the bill will function at all, and not be one long series of unintended consequence from beginning to end? Why do you think that any plan that is good for the pharmaceutical companies is good for you and me? And here I thought they just wanted to make a profit by developing popular and effective products. Little did I know they were actually enemies of mankind. You're right, forbidding them to make a profit will undoubtedly improve the quality and quantity of new drugs they discover in the future. Why are you happy with a plan that it last in developed nations (maybe next to last) in return on investment (quality of care versus money spent).Because the quality of care is second to none for most. Why do you want to make it mediocre for everybody except the super rich? Why are so many countries happy with their single payer plans (and in those countries you can pay your own way if you wish). They know no other system and they are not that happy. Go listen to debates about the Canadian system or the British system. They are underfunded and have to cut costs by rationing care. The waits are immense. The British system tried to cut emergency room wait times by making a rule that all patients had to be seen by a nurse within four hours; so now patients wait for hours in the ambulance to be let into the emergency room. So now you can't get an ambulance! And what they heck is so great about paying for health care twice, which is what you are doing when you have to pay a private clinic in a country that is taxing you at 70% marginal rates to pay for single payer health care. Why do single payer opposers keep yelping about the right to choose? Auto company employees (the largest insured groups) must go to plan- approved doctors? Today's medicine is still mostly private. It functions because it can cost-shift. You try finding a good doctor when they have all become RMV employees. The best ones will head for the hills into private clinics, out of the public system, leaving too few doctors for the rest of us. And thinking that the government system will be anything close to the gold-plated coverage the UAW gets is a pipe dream. That would bankrupt the Federal government like it bankrupted GM, only faster. Why are so many "insured" not getting covered? Are you talking about how hard it is to find a doctor that takes Medicaid or Medicare? You can multiply that problem by 100 once we are all on government Medicaid. Why are health costs the main cause of personal bankruptcies? Illness is double whammy for most, with loss of income plus medical expenses. If you don't have savings, and most Americans don't, you're screwed. Under a socialized system, you will still have the loss of income and you will still need to pay a private clinic if you need treatment fast, so it won't improve things as much as you think it will. Why do Republicans, right wingers, conservatives not have a comprehensive plan on the table? They do but the Democrats aren't interested in bipartisan legislation so the Republican bills don't get out of committee. The WH plan is to pass something, anything, quick on a party line vote. Why is it illegal to make a profit from health care in many countries? Apparently because those countries are content to let others foster medical innovation. Why is health care a privilege and not a right? Because you don't have the right to enslave doctors to provide it. Free speech is a right because all anyone has to do to give it to you is leave you alone. If health care is a right then someone has to give it to you, under conditions and pay the government orders, maybe low pay, maybe bad conditions. What happened to the doctor's rights? Why is it that if you have suspected tainted products (meat or produce) they can be recalled, but if you manufacturer a tobacco product, known and proven to cause death, it can't be recalled? Congress. Even so, I can sue the tobacco companies, or my private insurer if he screws up. Will I be able to sue the government plan as readily when they screw up? (added)NO!
