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Politics : A US National Health Care System? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Alastair McIntosh who wrote (7624)	7/19/2009 11:54:53 AM
From: John Carragher	Respond to of 42652

i know a few on dialysis here in states... appointments are when they can fit them in.. they try hard to accomodate them knowing working conditions, etc. i expect uk is talking about major scheduling problems.. and it did mention not doing dialysis three times a week and only two in cases where they cannot meet demand.. its not the numbers ,, it is the qualify of life for these people. it sounds terrible and i expect canada medical journal validated the article before publishing it.

To: Alastair McIntosh who wrote (7624)	7/19/2009 2:30:43 PM
From: Brumar89	Respond to of 42652

cmaj.ca Dearth of dialysis feared in UK Mary Helen Spooner West Sussex, UK An acute shortage of dialysis machines is causing numerous premature deaths in the UK, a study by the country's National Kidney Research Fund indicates. More than 100 000 people have kidney disease but only 34 000 are receiving dialysis or have had a kidney transplant. Of the 71 UK kidney treatment units surveyed, 12 have been forced to turn away patients. Other units reported that they have been forced to take emergency measures to accommodate increasing numbers of patients. Some offer patients dialysis only 2 times a week instead of 3, while others hold overnight treatment sessions. Most units reported they were working at full capacity, with no appointment times for new patients. "Some providers acknowledged that the final options for such patients are conservative management and/or death," the report said. The number of Britons receiving dialysis, 328/million inhabitants, compares unfavourably with other European countries, where the average is 537/million. "We are extremely concerned, for it is clear that the progress we thought we were making over the past 5 years has amounted to nothing," said Tim Strathan of the National Federation of Kidney Patient Associations. He said the number of patients with kidney disease is expected to double over the next decade, as rising levels of obesity and related type 2 diabetes mellitus cause more kidney disease and failure. More than 90% of treatment units surveyed reported they had trouble taking in patients from outside their area, and over 75% reported difficulties in arranging treatment for patients moving to another part of the country. — Mary Helen Spooner, West Sussex, UK ------------------ That was published in the journal of the Canadian Medical Association. So Americanthinker didn't make it up. Nice kneejerk reaction though.

To: Alastair McIntosh who wrote (7624)	7/19/2009 2:33:24 PM
From: Brumar89	Respond to of 42652

Kidney patients dying in dialysis care shortage Damn Americanthinker, now they're getting their propaganda published in British newspapers. And six years in advance of when they plan to use it to block the blessed advance of socialist health care in the US. By Jeremy Laurance Health Editor Tuesday, 14 January 2003 Britain is in the grip of an epidemic of kidney failure and people are dying because hospitals do not have enough dialysis machines to keep them alive. Britain is in the grip of an epidemic of kidney failure and people are dying because hospitals do not have enough dialysis machines to keep them alive. About 100,000 people have kidney disease but only 34,000 receive dialysis – regular treatment on a kidney machine – or have had a transplant, the National Kidney Research Fund (NKRF) says. When the kidneys fail, patients must receive dialysis or a transplant within three months or they will die. A survey of the 71 kidney units providing dialysis on the NHS in the UK found some were being forced to turn away patients because they could not cope with the demand. The NKRF survey found 12 units turned away patients in 2001. Seven said they turned away between two and 20 patients each during the year. Others reported having to take emergency measures to accommodate patients by setting up temporary dialysis stations or treating them overnight. The report says: "Some providers acknowledged that the final options for such patients are conservative management and/or death." John Bradley, director of the renal unit at Addenbrooke's Hospital, Cambridge, said: "There is concern that patients are dying because they can't get dialysis. If you talk to the units they say they don't know what happens to the patients they turn away." Kidney failure is a growing problem in Britain, fuelled by the rise in diabetes caused by increasing obesity. The total number of sufferers is projected to double over the next decade. It is four times more common in Asians and Afro-Caribbeans. Treatment involves being connected to a kidney machine, three times a week, for dialysis that cleanses the blood of impurities. Some patients survive for decades having dialysis but it costs £30,000 a year. independent.co.uk